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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging.
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:15:03
Message-Id: AANLkTikbakGdVmwt+HC4SR+f6tx23H+rHAP7NJ3qQfiO@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging. by Grant Edwards
1 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Grant Edwards
2 <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > On 2010-12-15, Andrea Conti <alyf@××××.net> wrote:
4 >>> E-SATA != SATA !!!!
5 >>
6 >> Nah. They are *exactly* the same.
7 >
8 > Not according to Wikipedia -- it says the electrical specs for eSATA
9 > are different than the specs for "normal" SATA.  I've seen that stated
10 > in other places as well.  I don't have copies of the two specs, so I
11 > can't say I'm 100%, but I believe the Wikipedia page.
12 >
13
14 It is true, and has to be for cost reasons.
15
16 1) Internal SATA drives are at the end of a single cable and don't
17 require hot-plugging logic be built into the SATA port driver on the
18 SATA controller because they are always powered up. (They are inside
19 the case)
20
21 2) External SATA drives are at the end of 1) an internal cable, 2) a
22 case SATA-eSATA connector, and 3) an external eSATA cable along with
23 whatever is inside the eSATA case. eSATA compatible ports must include
24 hot-plugging logic.
25
26 For cost/simplicity reasons chip manufacturers are free to remove
27 hot-plugging logic from any port for which they don't intend eSATA
28 compatibility.
29
30 The logic and timing of the signals on SATA and eSATA cables is
31 (TTBOMK) intended to be identical. What those signals look like at
32 different places in the cable chain will be different.
33
34 - Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging. Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging. Stroller <stroller@××××××××××××××××××.uk>