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On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 06:30:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote |
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> With situations like this, one has to apply some intelligence (and the |
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> reverse is also true - running gtk/Gnome apps on a KDE system). A few |
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> simple apps like say okular or konsole will be very manageable, as they |
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> have specific narrow functionality and are not core. |
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You'd be surprised. First some background on my system. When I |
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installed it as 32-bit years ago, I went with USE="-*" like so... |
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USE="-* a52 aac bzip2 cxx fortran ncurses netifrc nptl nptlonly nsplugin |
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offensive openssl posix readline ssl threads vim-syntax zlib X dga dri |
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exif ffmpeg flac classic gif intel jpeg mng mp3 mpeg ogg opengl png rtmp |
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theora tiff truetype vorbis xcomposite webm x264 xpm xv xvid xvmc" |
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When I re-did it as 64-bit, I went to "the regular way" like so... |
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USE="X apng bindist ffmpeg jpeg png truetype x264 x265 xorg -acl -berkdb |
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-chatzilla -cracklib -crypt -gallium -gdbm -gmp-autoupdate -graphite |
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-gstreamer -iconv -introspection -ipc -iptables -ipv6 -libav -llvm -nls |
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-openmp -pam -pch -roaming -sendmail -tcpd -udev -udisks -unicode |
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-upower -xinerama" |
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When Xpdf was deprecated, I eventually settled on mupdf, which is nice |
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and lightweight. I skipped okular, because it brought in a big chunk of |
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KDE. Just for ####s and giggles, I had a look today at what would be |
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required to build okular on my system. Repeat emerge commands showed |
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that my package.use would require the following extras... |
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dev-qt/qtcore qt3support |
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app-text/poppler qt4 |
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dev-qt/qtsql qt3support |
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dev-qt/qtgui qt3support |
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sys-apps/dbus X |
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media-video/vlc dbus ogg vorbis |
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sys-libs/zlib minizip |
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sys-libs/ncurses unicode |
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sys-auth/consolekit policykit |
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dev-qt/qtdeclarative qt3support |
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dev-qt/qtopengl qt3support |
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File-attached is the "emerge -pv okular" output. To summarize... |
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Total: 53 packages (50 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 329,492 KiB |
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...because a pdf-reader really needs libogg, libvorbis, www-misc/htdig, |
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qtcore-4.8.6-r4, 2 versions of qtgui, qt3support, qtwebkit, libdbusmenu, |
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strigi, spidermonkey, phonon, vlc, polkit, consolekit, etc, etc. |
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Similarly, gnumeric is a great spreadsheet, but it's being loaded |
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with a ton of egregiously unnecessary GNOME dependancies, via gtk3 |
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and goffice. Remember when Bill Gates showed how IE.EXE was an |
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eensy-weensy-teensy-itty-bitty little program that you could easily |
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remove? But he failed to mention that it was merely an interface to a |
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whole bunch of Windows libraries that were continuously running in the |
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background. Similarly, gnumeric has been adding hard dependancies on |
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various GNOME libraries over time. |
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I try to keep a minimal profile. Every so often, stuff like dbus, |
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harfbuzz, ghostscript, etc, etc, have been added as hard dependancies |
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to gnumeric. I'd be willing to contribute money to developers who would |
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fork gnumeric, and move it off of GTK and on to FTLK (Fast Light Tool |
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Kit) http://www.fltk.org/index.php and get rid of hard dependancies on |
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a bunch of GNOME stuff. |
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Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> |
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I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications |
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