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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:33:54
Message-Id: 5010AC32.4020003@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm by Michael Mol
1 Michael Mol wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> The point made about producing less heat with the smaller nm sounds
4 >> reasonable tho.
5 > Less heat with the smaller nm, but only if all other things remain equal!
6 >
7 > In reality, manufacturers use additional margin within their TDP to
8 > improve the product otherwise. Perhaps they increase the clock speed
9 > somewhat. Perhaps they increase the amount of on-die cache. Perhaps
10 > they reduce the instruction pipeline.
11 >
12 > AMD, for example, has tended to maintain keep something in the market
13 > for a 125W, 95W and 65W TDPs for several years. Each year, the
14 > functionality that used to be in a 125W TDP processor shows up in a
15 > 95W TDP processor, and the latest 125W TDP processor beats the pants
16 > off of last years'.
17 >
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19
20 I found this to be plain weird when I built my new rig. My old rig was
21 a AMD 2500+ single core system with 2Gbs of ram. It pulled about 400
22 watts or so for normal desktop use. A little more when compiling and
23 such. My new rig, AMD Phenom II 955 with four cores and 16Gbs of ram.
24 Heck, just a single core is much faster than my old rig. Thing is, the
25 new rig pulls less than half of what the old one pulls, WHILE
26 COMPILING. I can't recall the nm part but I think the CPU I got for my
27 old rig was supposed to be for laptop use.
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29 AMD sure is getting more efficient as you point out. I still wonder
30 where we will be in 10 years. Just how fast can they make them?
31
32 Dale
33
34 :-) :-)
35
36 --
37 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

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