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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:39:03
Message-Id: 4221035.bOF7vk8orf@nazgul
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it? by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Thursday 07 July 2011 13:42:24 Michael Orlitzky did opine thusly:
2 > > Holy shit, that attitude from Samuli sucks big balls big time.
3 > >
4 > >
5 > >
6 > > He's always come across to me as an OK dev, never seen him pull
7 > > THAT stunt before.
8 >
9 > For what it's worth, I was expecting much worse. In his defense, the
10 > commenters list a bunch of bugs in other packages as the reason why
11 > they want to retain gtk2 support in the gnome-mplayer ebuild.
12 >
13 > Per comment 21, the Gnome team suggests that packages use the latest
14 > version of gtk that works.
15
16 Yes, that's "suggests" they use "that latest that works", not
17 "demands", "insists", "mandates" or "requires", and not "only the
18 latest version that works".
19
20 > The gnome-mplayer package is supported on the alpha, amd64, ppc,
21 > ppc64, x86, and x86-fbsd arches. Adding a gtk2 USE flag means that
22 > the testing load would be doubled; that the maintainer would have
23 > to recompile the package six times on six different machines to
24 > make sure that it runs with gtk2.
25 >
26 > Then, to go stable (in addition to now being tied to the stable
27 > gtk2), the arch testers would have to re-test on all six of those
28 > arches.
29 >
30 > So, the additional burden isn't so small as it's made out to be in
31 > the comments.
32
33 And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden,
34 alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison?
35
36 How about the devs relook at this and do it sanely. When the major
37 consumer of gtk+ (gnome itself) has a stable gtk+-3 very in stable,
38 then other packages follow suit, not before.
39
40
41 --
42 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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