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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] console scrollback (kernel 5.14)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:51:24
Message-Id: 0665b77a-6a96-c0ea-21de-13a64766d5dc@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] console scrollback (kernel 5.14) by Jorge Almeida
1 Jorge Almeida wrote:
2 > On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 6:24 PM antlists <antlists@××××××××××××.uk> wrote:
3 > Hello, Wol and Dale
4 >> When you rebuild it, get a surge protector and then put a UPS behind
5 >> that ... snag is that's all extra expense :-(
6 >>
7 > Surge protectors: I googled it and mostly got bad reviews. Do they
8 > _really_work? What would you recommend? It probably should be
9 > something amazon-purchasable! Availability in my country is probably
10 > limited (and overpriced to boot, I bet).
11 >
12 > UPS: never gave it serious thought, I had the impression there was too
13 > much unclear stuff: for example, is it noisy (does it need a fan)? If
14 > (when) some component needs replacement will I know it before
15 > disaster? And does the replacement require a "qualified technician"? (
16 > Dale's description is not very reassuring!)
17 >
18 > Note that my lightning problem happened at night with both computer
19 > and monitor powered down (but still connected to a wall outlet through
20 > an interrupted extension; hence the "not-so-smart" self-qualifying...)
21 >
22 > Thanks for your suggestions
23 >
24 > Jorge
25 >
26 >
27
28 I had lightening strike right down the road, about 1,000 feet as a bird
29 flies.  It took out some stuff at my neighbors, including a freezer
30 which died a month later.  It even blew light bulbs, I mean literally
31 blew them.  They exploded and glass went all over the room.  I suggested
32 surge protection for their computer, TV and such a while before that. 
33 Even with a virtually direct hit, the surge protectors kept working. 
34 Not long after that, they wanted a UPS for their computer but also
35 wanted one for the TV, since the dish box takes a while to reload after
36 the power blinks.  So I helped them pick a fair sized UPS for the puter
37 and a smaller one for the TV.  The puter runs long enough to shutdown
38 normally and the TV is protected for those little blinks in power that
39 last just long enough to reset everything. 
40
41 One way to pick a decent surge device, look at the warranty.  If it
42 includes paying for items plugged in, then you're off to a good start at
43 least.  I just try to get as high a joule rating as I can.  The reason
44 for that, they can absorb more than one hit and still protect.  While
45 one large hit can disable protection, it can take out hundreds of
46 smaller hits and still work.  It all comes down to the quality of the
47 MOVs and the design of the protector. 
48
49 If you use Amazon: APC, Belkin and Tripp Lite are some brands I've heard
50 or seen are good.  I've used a couple of those brands myself.  I've
51 always heard that the Monster brand is also good but a bit pricey.  When
52 I researched them long ago, they are some heavy duty built products so
53 if a person has some serious power problems, they may be well worth the
54 expense.  I bought some on ebay that were Etekcity brand but it seems
55 they no longer make them.  I bought some that had a little over 5,000
56 joules of protection.  The only thing I didn't like, if power fails, it
57 stays off.  It doesn't have a hardware switch but a circuit switch that
58 resets on power loss.  That can be a good thing in some situations but I
59 don't like it. They are good protectors tho. 
60
61 Hope that info helps.  Also hope you can find something to prevent
62 future problems. 
63
64 Dale
65
66 :-)  :-) 

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