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From: Mike Edenfield <kutulu@××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:18:27
Message-Id: 07ed01cd01fd$ea6c6b60$bf454220$@kutulu.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. by Alan McKinnon
1 > From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckinnon@×××××.com]
2 > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM
3 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
4 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
5 >
6 > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
7 > Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info> wrote:
8 >
9 > > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
10 > > > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
11 > > > is a configuration that causes problems in many real-world,
12 > > > practical situations.
13 > > >
14 > > > The requirement of having /usr on the same partition as / is also a
15 > > > configuration that causes problems in many real-world, practical
16 > > > situations.
17 > > >
18 > >
19 > > I quite often read about this, and after some thinking, I have to
20 > > ask: why?
21 > >
22 >
23 > I've also thought about this and I also want to ask why?
24
25 To be honest, I was simply taking for granted that all of the other people
26 on this list who made a huge fuss about this were not lying.
27
28 I, personally, have never had a use or need for a separate /usr; I know how
29 big (approximately) /usr is going to get and I give it that much space. I
30 guess I'm fortunate not to have ever managed a server where the hard drives
31 were so tiny as to make that impractical.
32
33 This whole udev/initrd/mdev/etc problem, for me, has been little more than
34 an entertaining diversion, since I've been using a supported setup from the
35 start. However, I'm confident that there are legitimate reasons why some
36 sysadmins use certain configurations which require / and /usr to be
37 different partitions; I'm less confident that initrd is not the real
38 solution to their "problem" but that's not really my call to make.
39
40 I'm *very* confident that a dismissal of this issue as "the ego if one or
41 two guys who happen to write udev" is a blatant oversimplification that does
42 not do justice to the complexities involved in making modern hardware work.
43
44 --Mike

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