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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:04:02
Message-Id: CAK2H+efqEoLv9cvW5eF4=_8PkNC_gYoWQ236=Z=jAM+aK0EdBA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? by Norman Invasion
1 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Norman Invasion
2 <invasivenorman@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > On 9 May 2012 04:47, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >> Hi,
5 >>
6 >> As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my
7 >> videos on, eventually.  The prices are coming down now.  I keep seeing
8 >> these "green" drives that are made by just about every company nowadays.
9 >>  When comparing them to a non "green" drive, do they hold up as good?
10 >> Are they as dependable as a plain drive?  I guess they are more
11 >> efficient and I get that but do they break quicker, more often or no
12 >> difference?
13 >>
14 >> I have noticed that they tend to spin slower and are cheaper.  That much
15 >> I have figured out.  Other than that, I can't see any other difference.
16 >>  Data speeds seem to be about the same.
17 >>
18 >
19 > They have an ugly tendency to nod off at 6 second intervals.
20 > This runs up "193 Load_Cycle_Count" unacceptably: as many
21 > as a few hundred thousand in a year & a million cycles is
22 > getting close to the lifetime limit on most hard drives.  I end
23 > up running some iteration of
24 > # hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
25 > every boot.
26 >
27
28 Very true about the 193 count. Here's a drive in a system that was
29 built in Jan., 2010 so it's a bit over 2 years old at this point. It's
30 on 24/7 and not rebooted except for more major updates, etc. My tests
31 say the drive spins down and starts back up every 2 minutes and has
32 been doing so for about 28 months. IIRC the 193 spec on this drive was
33 something like 300000 max with the drive currently clocking in at
34 700488. I don't see any evidence that it's going to fail but I am
35 trying to make sure it's backed up often. Being that it's gone >2x at
36 this point I will swap the drive out in the early summer no matter
37 what. This week I'll be visiting where the machine is so I'm going to
38 put a backup drive in the box to get ready.
39
40 - Mark
41
42
43 gandalf ~ # smartctl -a /dev/sda
44 smartctl 5.42 2011-10-20 r3458 [x86_64-linux-3.2.12-gentoo] (local build)
45 Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
46
47 === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
48 Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Green (Adv. Format)
49 Device Model: WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1
50 Serial Number: WD-WCAV55464493
51 LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2ae6b5ffe
52 Firmware Version: 80.00A80
53 User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
54 Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
55 Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
56 ATA Version is: 8
57 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
58 Local Time is: Thu May 10 10:53:59 2012 PDT
59 SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
60 SMART support is: Enabled
61
62 === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
63 SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
64
65 General SMART Values:
66 Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
67 was completed without error.
68 Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
69 Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
70 without error or no self-test has ever
71 been run.
72 Total time to complete Offline
73 data collection: (19800) seconds.
74 Offline data collection
75 capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
76 Auto Offline data collection
77 on/off support.
78 Suspend Offline collection upon new
79 command.
80 Offline surface scan supported.
81 Self-test supported.
82 Conveyance Self-test supported.
83 Selective Self-test supported.
84 SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
85 power-saving mode.
86 Supports SMART auto save timer.
87 Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
88 General Purpose Logging supported.
89 Short self-test routine
90 recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
91 Extended self-test routine
92 recommended polling time: ( 228) minutes.
93 Conveyance self-test routine
94 recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.
95 SCT capabilities: (0x3031) SCT Status supported.
96 SCT Feature Control supported.
97 SCT Data Table supported.
98
99 SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
100 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
101 ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
102 UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
103 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail
104 Always - 0
105 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 131 128 021 Pre-fail
106 Always - 6441
107 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
108 Always - 65
109 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail
110 Always - 0
111 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age
112 Always - 0
113 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 074 074 000 Old_age
114 Always - 19316
115 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age
116 Always - 0
117 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age
118 Always - 0
119 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
120 Always - 63
121 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
122 Always - 14
123 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age
124 Always - 700488
125 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 120 113 000 Old_age
126 Always - 27
127 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
128 Always - 0
129 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
130 Always - 0
131 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age
132 Offline - 0
133 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age
134 Always - 0
135 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age
136 Offline - 0
137
138 SMART Error Log Version: 1
139 No Errors Logged
140
141 SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
142 Num Test_Description Status Remaining
143 LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
144 # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 11655 -
145 # 2 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 8797 -
146 # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 8794 -
147 # 4 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 1009 -
148 # 5 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 388 -
149 # 6 Short offline Completed without error 00% 376 -
150
151 SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
152 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
153 1 0 0 Not_testing
154 2 0 0 Not_testing
155 3 0 0 Not_testing
156 4 0 0 Not_testing
157 5 0 0 Not_testing
158 Selective self-test flags (0x0):
159 After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
160 If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
161
162 gandalf ~ #

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Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? Norman Invasion <invasivenorman@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? David Haller <gentoo@×××××××.de>