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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Neil Bothwick<neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: |
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<SNIP> |
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>> A different short-term solution might be to find another old junker |
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>> machine that is supported, building it out of junker parts. This would |
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>> be good if I had any certainty that when the work was completed |
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>> portage wouldn't immediately create the same havok. |
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> Your real problem is that you are using outdated and unsupported |
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> hardware. Not unsupported by Gentoo but unsupported by ATI. Incidentally, |
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> have you filed a bug report about this, if the only available driver for |
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> your hardware has been removed from portage, you should post a bug asking |
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> it to be reinstated. |
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> -- |
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> Neil Bothwick |
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> "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" |
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Unfortunately for me: |
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1) It absolutely isn't that the hardware is unsupported, it's that a |
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*feature* of the hardware (TV Out S-Video) became unsupported. The |
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machine works (AFAIK) with Gentoo. It boots, it probably runs X just |
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fine using the VGA output. It's that the S-Video output feature (TV |
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Out) has become unsupported by ati-driver. Who would have ever guessed |
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when you purchased a machine that uses and ATI chipset with a built-in |
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ATI graphics controller that it would be ATI that chose to obsolete |
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it? Amazing... |
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2) Following your Bugzilla suggestion about asking that it be put back |
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into portage to it's logical conclusion and it gets scary. Here's the |
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paraphrased request: |
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a) I need ati-driver-8.28.8 put back into portage because it's the |
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last driver that supports TV out for the 9100 IGP chipset. |
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b) Unfortunately I need 2.6.19 added back into portage because it's |
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the last kernel that ati-driver-8.28.8 runs on. |
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c) Because all this old stuff doesn't work on the new xorg-server I |
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need xorg-server-1.1.1 to remain in portage. |
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Multiply this sort of requirement up by whatever additional packages |
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are required to get the stuff above actually working and it looks |
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unlikely, 'eh? Granted, I don't need the kernel because I can just get |
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that and manage it myself. (I.e. - I don't need gentoo-sources) |
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I really think this is what a personal overlay is for, but as I've |
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said for years, it's hard to build an overlay when you don't know what |
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needs to be in it until it's been removed. And yes, *something* has |
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removed these files, at least from my distfiles directory and I'm |
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pretty confident it wasn't me by hand because the machines all have |
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disk space which is the only reason I ever remove packages from there |
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by hand. There are still things lurking around in /var/db/pkgs or |
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whatever it's called so maybe I can learn how to create a personal |
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overlay form what's left and then go look elsewhere for other things |
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required. |
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Anyway, thanks for the inputs. I'm not sure what I'm going to do next |
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other than take some time and figure things out. |
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As always I appreciate your help. |
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Cheers, |
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Mark |
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