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From: Daniel Frey <djqfrey@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any UPS recommendations?
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:49:31
Message-Id: 50EC85D5.9000604@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Any UPS recommendations? by Paul Hartman
1 On 01/08/2013 09:32 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
2 > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Paul Hartman
3 > <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
5 >>> I think my UPS is dying. Time to get a new one. It's been years, so
6 >>> there may be new tech out there I don't know about. My normal usage is
7 >>> * 1 LCD monitor 24"
8 >>> * 1 (sometimes 2) "desktop" PCs connected to the monitor
9 >>> * 1 ADSL router/modem
10 >>>
11 >>> What brand and VA rating would people recommend. The stuff I'm
12 >>> concerned about is the 2 or 3 times a year I get power flickers, or a
13 >>> short outage. And also, if power is out for more than 5 minutes, and
14 >>> the battery is running low, I want the PC to be able to sense that and
15 >>> execute /usr/sbin/hibernate
16 >>
17 >> I personally have a Cyberpower 1350VA (with fancy LED display to show
18 >> current load, estimated time remaining, etc.). It is supported by NUT
19 >> in linux so my box can do a clean shutdown when the UPS battery is
20 >> running low. Running my big PC (with 7 HDDs RAID) it gives me around
21 >> 30 to 45 minutes of life on battery before the shutdown kicks in. My
22 >> power outages at my house are generally either <5 seconds, or
23 >> hours/days with nothing in-between. :)
24 >
25 > I will also add I had an Ultra brand UPS before (actually made by
26 > Powercom), which was extremely cheap, I'm talking about $79 shipped
27 > for 1500VA UPS, and it spontaneously stopped working one day, just
28 > outside of the warranty period. It was not supported by NUT, the linux
29 > software required binaries instealled to /etc and also to write its
30 > logs to /etc and generally did not work well anyway. I will avoid
31 > Powercom/Ultra UPS in the future.
32 >
33 > At work we use APC brand UPS and they generally seem to work very
34 > well, though they tend to be quite expensive.
35 >
36
37 (Speaking from my own experience over the last 15 years)
38
39 If you have two desktop PCs plus monitor and switches I would try to get
40 1500VA or more.
41
42 I have tried Tripp-Lite, Cyberpower, and APC. So far, the best luck I've
43 had is with APC.
44
45 I started out with APC initially (small unit, 350VA) and paid the
46 premium price. The second and third time around (not replacing, needing
47 new UPSs) I tried other brands. First the Tripp-Lite, it was OK but a
48 year and a half later it just died with no warning. Got a replacement
49 battery and still no go. So I bought a Cyberpower UPS. This one lasted
50 almost two years, and when the power went out the first time it worked -
51 but the second time it went out when the power came back the UPS fried
52 and it unfortunately took out my PSU, motherboard, and hard drive. For
53 some reason the monitor survived... and no, I did not have any
54 high-amperage devices attached (printer is in a different room.)
55
56 Anyway, after that experience, I stuck with APC. I currently have four
57 of them, a little 350VA guy for my modem and switches, and 3 1200VA
58 models. These are old now, bought in 2004, and other than having to
59 change one battery in one of the units, they all still work. Nine years!
60
61 I also recommend APC based on my own experience. Yes, they're more
62 expensive (in some cases 50% more) than others, but longevity seems to
63 be great. Plus you can use apcupsd for monitoring in linux.
64
65 We also use APC at work. While a few have had their batteries changed,
66 most of the units themselves are at least 10 years old.
67
68 Dan