Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement

[Dale]

Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2011-10-07, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s<caneko@×××××.com>  wrote:
>
>> In the end, udev was making huge advances, and HAL could not keep up
>> simply because the other Operating Systems didn't have similar
>> capabilities, so the consumers of HAL (desktop systems, mostly)
>> started to use udev directly. That was when the shit hit the fan: if
>> the purpose of HAL was to mantain "portability", but the biggest and
>> most active developer community (Linux) refused to use it since it
>> didn't allowed them to use the full capabilities of the operating
>> system, then it had (literally) no reason to live. So the HAL
>> mantainers saw the error of their ways, and they deprecated it,
>> saying to the user space developers that, in Linux, they should use
>> udev, and in other Operating Systems whatever was equivalent, if any.
>>
>> It was really fast, if I remember correctly: one day half the
>> programs in my computers used HAL, and the next every single one of
>> them stopped using it. In Gentoo in particular was pretty rough,
>> since the X.org version that used HAL had just become stable (which
>> was kinda difficult to transition to), and next thing you know, you
>> again had to transition, this time to a HAL-free X.org. A lot of
>> users got really angry in Gentoo because of that.
> Some of us grumpy-old-guy types refused to play nice and didn't make
> either transition.  We disabled HAL support in X.org [after X.org had
> stopped working when HAL became the default].  Once we had HAL
> disabled, we continued to to use the trusty old xorg.conf file until
> the whole HAL thing blew over.
>
> I'm going to ignore grub2 for as long as I can, but I don't think it's
> going away the way HAL did... ;)
>

Some of us old farts tried hal and got bit, hard.  It's the one time I 
can say Linux failed me big time.  I felt like I was running windoze.  O_O

Dale

:-)  :-)