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Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> writes: |
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> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:55:27 +0100, lee wrote: |
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>> > Firstly, things like Flash and Skype are not special cases, they are |
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>> > widely used and many of us have to use them, whether we like it or |
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>> > not. |
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>> They are special cases. Flash never really worked, and when it does, |
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>> it's pretty much unusable because it's too crappy. Skype only kinda |
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>> works and is not usable due to total lack of privacy. |
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> You can call those and other binary-only programs special cases as much |
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> as you like, and maybe they are for you. But for many people there is no |
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> real choice but to use them. |
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Of course it's a choice, no matter whether ppl make it or not. |
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>> > Secondly, no one is forcing you to use anything? There is a |
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>> > no-multilib profile, |
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>> There doesn't seem to be a desktop profile that isn't multilib. |
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> Probably for the reasons I've already suggested, but you don't have to |
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> use a desktop profile. |
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>> > and nothing to stop you creating a no-multilib version of your |
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>> > preferred desktop profile if you so wish (the desktop profiles are |
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>> > basically a different set of default USE flags). |
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>> I wouldn't know how to do that. |
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> emerge --info with the desktop profile to get a list of USE flags, then |
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> set those same flags on the no-multilib profile. What's so hard? |
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It is something you need to know before you can do it. Look at the |
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instructions on the wiki for installing kde, for example. They tell you |
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to use the corresponding profile. That profile is a multilib profile, |
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and you cannot switch to a multilib profile from a non-multilib one. Of |
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course, I choose a non-multilib profile when I install. |
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>> In any case, the default is simply wrong. |
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> Of course it is, it's a default, it can't be right for everyone. That's |
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> why it is a default starting point, not an enforced setting. If you don't |
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> want to move away from the defaults, what are you using Gentoo? |
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Ok, it's not only wrong, it's badly made. Who knows what all a profile |
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does. |
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>> > Multilib should be going away on due time. Until then you have two |
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>> > courses of action: complain about it or use a no-multilib profile |
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>> > with your preferred flags. Only one of those choices has any real |
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>> > benefit. |
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>> There is no non-multilib profile one could use when they want a desktop |
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>> profile. Perhaps multilib goes away in 20 years or so, or never. That |
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>> doesn't help. |
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> However long it takes, the timescale will not be altered by one second by |
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> any amount of complaining in here. |
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Well, I suppose you have no idea how awfully stupid and retarded it is |
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to encounter criticism and/or suggestions, or questioning something, by |
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claiming that someone is complaining. |
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