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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerging with distcc: What's taking so long?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:36:01
Message-Id: 20160113093549.4905a8f7@digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] emerging with distcc: What's taking so long? by lee
1 On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:55:27 +0100, lee wrote:
2
3 > > Firstly, things like Flash and Skype are not special cases, they are
4 > > widely used and many of us have to use them, whether we like it or
5 > > not.
6 >
7 > They are special cases. Flash never really worked, and when it does,
8 > it's pretty much unusable because it's too crappy. Skype only kinda
9 > works and is not usable due to total lack of privacy.
10
11 You can call those and other binary-only programs special cases as much
12 as you like, and maybe they are for you. But for many people there is no
13 real choice but to use them.
14
15 > > Secondly, no one is forcing you to use anything? There is a
16 > > no-multilib profile,
17 >
18 > There doesn't seem to be a desktop profile that isn't multilib.
19
20 Probably for the reasons I've already suggested, but you don't have to
21 use a desktop profile.
22
23 > > and nothing to stop you creating a no-multilib version of your
24 > > preferred desktop profile if you so wish (the desktop profiles are
25 > > basically a different set of default USE flags).
26 >
27 > I wouldn't know how to do that.
28
29 emerge --info with the desktop profile to get a list of USE flags, then
30 set those same flags on the no-multilib profile. What's so hard?
31
32 > In any case, the default is simply wrong.
33
34 Of course it is, it's a default, it can't be right for everyone. That's
35 why it is a default starting point, not an enforced setting. If you don't
36 want to move away from the defaults, what are you using Gentoo?
37
38 > > Multilib should be going away on due time. Until then you have two
39 > > courses of action: complain about it or use a no-multilib profile
40 > > with your preferred flags. Only one of those choices has any real
41 > > benefit.
42 >
43 > There is no non-multilib profile one could use when they want a desktop
44 > profile. Perhaps multilib goes away in 20 years or so, or never. That
45 > doesn't help.
46
47 However long it takes, the timescale will not be altered by one second by
48 any amount of complaining in here.
49
50
51 --
52 Neil Bothwick
53
54 Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging with distcc: What's taking so long? lee <lee@××××××××.de>