Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

[Alan McKinnon]

:-)

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There are many more regulars. Those are just the few I know well enough
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Cheers,





On 02/04/2013 21:40, Davide Carnovale wrote:
> Ahaha thanks Alan, very explanatory and funny email!
> I won't say "gentoo is fast" anymore, I promise. :-)
>
> As for the rest i'll just keep the i486 base and start from there since
> I already compiled the kernel and stuff...
>
> Thanks all
>
> D
>
> Il giorno 02/apr/2013 21:18, "Alan McKinnon" <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com
> <mailto:alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>> ha scritto:
>
>     On 02/04/2013 19:51, Davide Carnovale wrote:
>     > Hi all gentoo people!
>     > I've been away from gentoo for a while, and I'm in the process of
>     > reinstalling it today.
>     > While downloading the stage 3 I noticed that only an i486 version is
>     > available. As far as I remember, gentoo was best known, back in the
>     > days, for being fast, as it was one of the first distro to support
>     > i686... am i wrong with this? if not, why only i486 today?
>     >
>     > apart from the reasons behind the decision of shipping only an i486
>     > stage 3, do you think it's worth the pain to recompile everything
>     > (like the old stage1) for a different arch? i have an intel i5
>     > processor.
>
>     You have been gone a while :-)
>
>     These days we don't do the whole stage 1/2/3 thing while rebuilding the
>     whole lot multiple times.
>
>     Nowadays we just unpack a suitable stage 3 into a chroot, tweak CFLAGS,
>     "emerge -e world", then emerge all the packages you use.
>
>     The stage3 tarballs are normally quite out of date so you will rebuild
>     the whole lot anyway asap. If your workstation is also your buildhost,
>     the bests start for CFLAGS with a reasonably recent gcc is
>
>     CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
>
>     and CHOST, as always, is something you should not be touching at all.
>
>     IOW, as long as you start with the desired ABI (32 vs 64 bit) your first
>     update is going to optimize and fix things anyway. So don't wprry
>     about it.
>
>     Oh, and "gentoo is fast" is a nono swear word these days. That's ricing
>     :-) Nowadays we say the benefit of gentoo is USE so you get what *you*
>     want :-)
>
>
>
>
>     --
>     Alan McKinnon
>     alan.mckinnon@×××××.com <mailto:alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
>
>


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