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From: gottlieb@×××.edu
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:43:48
Message-Id: 8738ng86vv.fsf@nyu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? by Alan McKinnon
1 On Fri, Nov 01 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2
3 > On 01/11/2013 15:41, gottlieb@×××.edu wrote:
4 >> On Thu, Oct 31 2013, gottlieb@×××.edu wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote:
7 >>>
8 >>>> Making things "just work" is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more
9 >>>> supported versions/implementations of python.
10 >>>
11 >>> Indeed.
12 >>>
13 >>>> We have tried to explain the magic make.conf lines in the Python user guide.
14 >>>>
15 >>>> https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python/python-r1/user-guide.xml
16 >>>>
17 >>>> We also try to make sure that most users never have to touch
18 >>>> PYTHON_TARGETS, etc; the default values provided by your profile are
19 >>>> set up to allow *stable* python2.7 and python3.2 to work properly.
20 >>>
21 >>>> ~arch users are expected to read the docs. ^_^
22 >>>
23 >>> I am a ~amd64 user and I just read the user-guide. :-)
24 >>> I do not see any action items for my system; but do see a large number
25 >>> of reinstalls proposed by emerge
26 >>>
27 >>> I do not change any python variables in make.conf so emerge --info shows
28 >>> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7"
29 >>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2"
30 >>>
31 >>> a recursive grep -i for python in /etc/portage yields only
32 >>> ./package.use/imaging-pillow:5:virtual/python-imaging
33 >>> -python_targets_python3_2
34 >>>
35 >>> So I basically have the default except for the imaging/pillow business.
36 >>>
37 >>> I note that update world wants to rebuild a bunch of packages (the
38 >>> entire output is below). Some are qt-related others involve
39 >>> PYTHON_TARGETS.
40 >>>
41 >>> Does this mean that I can let the 44 packages / 38 reinstalls update occur
42 >>> and expect a running system to result? It is unusual, but I realize not
43 >>> unprecedented, to have so many reinstalls and I would like to confirm
44 >>> that this is expected.
45 >>>
46 >>> thanks,
47 >>> allan
48 >>
49 >> I realize that I forgot to attach the list of packages emerge wants to
50 >> reinstall. So I did the same emerge command (I always use --ask) and
51 >> they are *gone*. This I don't understand since I didn't sync inbetween
52 >> (ls -lt /usr/portage shows nothing since wednesday).
53 >>
54 >> I though all dependencies, etc are resolved locally so why would it
55 >> change from 44 packages with 38 reinstalls to 4 packages with no
56 >> reinstalls?
57 >
58 >
59 > Did you make any changes to make.conf between your previous mail and
60 > doing this last test?
61
62 Good question, but no.
63
64 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 709 Sep 18 14:58 /etc/portage/make.conf
65
66 allan

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