Re: [gentoo-user] Akonadi loses mails

[Mick]

On Wednesday 24 Aug 2011 21:53:09 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2011, 22:11:48 schrieb Alan McKinnon:

> > Then blow up the repo so this POS will never again see the light of
> > day.
> > I'm trying to migrate away from kdepim. Nothing else out there imports
> > KDE folders
>
> They are maildirs, sort of, aren't they?
> ~ $  ls .kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/new/
> {2f2c8b47-dc21-4a7a-a0c4-1f0f6a223264}
> {ef61aa1a-f38f-40a7-99b1-6573bb12afa5}

Are you sure that these maildirs cannot be accessed exactly as/where they are 
with other mail clients that read maildir?  I have had no problem accessing 
and reading mine with mutt.

Also, you have the Folder/Archive Folder command on the menu - would that help 
you to access messages with another mail client?


> > so I use my usual trick of running a local imap server,
> > dragging mail trees into it and when the new mail client is started,
> > everything is right there.
> >
> > Akonadi/kmail2 silently destroys the mail when you attempt this.
>
> That's really bad...

If it really does this .... then it is worse than just "bad"!  O_O

However, the sync of your offline mail folders with IMAP may be happening in 
two steps:

1. When I send a message from Kmail it immediately shows up in my local sent-
mail folder.

2. If I sync with the IMAP server the message disappears from the local  
folder!  OK, no need to panic now ... although I'm getting nervous.

3. Sync again and the message now shows up again in my local folder.  Phew!


Could this be happening with your local IMAP set up too and you haven't really 
lost your messages?


> > I did a few tests, copied small folders, contents of other folders,
> > etc and satisfied myself it all worked nicely. Then dragged and
> > dropped nice big chunks of mail tree into the IMAP folders. The mails
> > appear in the kde view, but THEY ARE NOT ON DISK ANYMORE. What I am
> > seeing is the akonadi cache, and sooner or later that will expire.
>
> F..k!

Indeed, unless the local messages have been moved over to the IMAP server and 
will show up again in the local client (and disk) once you resync with the 
server - as I describe above.  I haven't checked my local Mail directories on 
the fs to see what happens to a message (physically) when it disappears 
temporarily from a local directory in Kmail.


> > There was no warning, no dialog, no notification. Just a pile of mail
> > disappeared. Akonadi/nepomuk/kmail/virtuoso/soprano/strigi didn't do
> > it's usual stunt of observing that my mouse pointer had moved and
> > consume 200% of cpu at load 11 for 30 minutes while it reindexed
> > everything. It appears to have just chucked 2GB of pim data away.
>
> Check your .xsession-error for SQL-Errors. I had a ton of these and had to
> reconfigure my MySQL-Server to manage the requests it got from
> kmail/akonadi/whatever. Don't remember the details though.
>
> > Need I mention that NOT chucking pim data away is it's primary design
> > goal (or should be).
> >
> > Now finally after 3 years, I understand what all the other ex-KDE
> > users are on about - this is a stinking pile of bloatcrap and a
> > solution to a problem that actually does not exist.
>
> I really like kde4. But this PIM-stuff... I don't get it.
>
> > To say that I'm pissed off is putting it mildly.
> > Tomorrow morning I will decide if KDE4 itself is to be the next
> > casualty.

The funny thing is that other than the Konqueror/Dolphin, Kmail and K3b 
applications I don't really use KDE at all.  If this behaviour is true the 
first thing I would do is double the frequency of my backups!  o_O

I'll keep my fingers crossed that you haven't really lost all your messages 
because of some unbelievable and catastrophic Akonadi bug, please let us know 
what happens.
-- 
Regards,
Mick