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Mick - thanks for the responses. |
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[just replying to a few specific points] |
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On 2020.02.02 06:27, Mick wrote: |
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> On Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:08:37 GMT Jack wrote: |
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[snip.....] |
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Thanks for the general info on the "alias" issue. One minor problem |
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I've had is that many email providers say the allow email aliases, but |
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they are only talking about different addresses either at their same |
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domain or maybe at one of several other domains they own. Those will |
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not allow an alias from a domain that they do not control. |
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On the DMARC issue - for a while sourceforge had their DMARC records |
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set up so that a message "From: " their domain would be rejected if not |
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actually sent from their domain. They finally backed down, when they |
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realized this would cause problems for everyone using one of their |
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forwarding addresses. I don't remember exactly where that discussion |
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happened, but I think it was on one of the kde.org mailing lists. |
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[snip....] |
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>> I'm trying to move away from gmail. Especially for mailing lists |
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>> like this one, if I send a message to the list, I never see that I |
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>> get the message from the list, because gmail refuses to show it in |
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>> my inbox because it's a duplicate of a message already in my sentbox. |
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> I think you can use Filters and Labels[2] in Gmail to tag and then |
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> move whatever you receive/send into a folder you define. |
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Two issues here. First, as I download all my mail by POP3 and maintain |
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it locally, using gmails filters and tags doesn't help me any. Second, |
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and perhaps I misstated this, is that a message I sent to the list |
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starts out in my sentbox. Since I sent it, Google knows I already have |
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a local copy. When the copy of the message arrives from the list, even |
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if it shows up in my Google inbox, I can't download in by POP3, since |
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they think I already have a copy. In fact, there is no way in Google |
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to mark a message as "New" or "Not downloaded yet" once you have |
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downloaded it. In the cases where I accidentally delete something |
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locally, the only way I have found to get another copy is using IMAP. |
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> You could try using the terms "email alias address" and "Send As" |
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> with them to see if this allows your conversation to progress further. |
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Thanks. That's useful. |
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> Many ISPs are a marketing shop buying the email service backend from |
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> one of the big email suppliers, e.g. Google, AWS, etc. Such |
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> marketing shops without commensurate technical capabilities are only |
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> a step away from having spammers associated with their service and |
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> therefore keep features down to a minimum to avoid being blacklisted |
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> due to potential misconfigurations. |
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Understood, and that's why I'm trying to find one of those backend |
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providers I can deal with directly. |
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Jack |
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