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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:34:27
Message-Id: CADPrc83PKrGq94vFEsRggb=hBs0Dj8Ukz9gPhsHSx-FEJx=-4A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 10/06/2011 05:00 PM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
3 >> Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400
4 >> schrieb Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>:
5 >>
6 >>> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
7 >>>>
8 >>>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining often comes from just not
9 >>>> being used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it
10 >>>> with passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it
11 >>>> again and the process will repeat.
12 >>>>
13 >>>
14 >>> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your locks
15 >>> every week?
16 >>>
17 >>> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will probably spend a
18 >>> good eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and documenting
19 >>> it. In the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff will
20 >>> work exactly how it does now.
21 >>
22 >> nothing forces you to switch to grub2.
23 >>
24 >
25 > True in theory, but not in practice. Legacy grub will go away
26 > eventually.
27
28 Technically, it's already gone. It's on life-support: the developers
29 of grub-legacy are the same of GRUB2, and they are only accepting bug
30 fixes, not new features (I believe, someone correct me if I'm
31 mistaken).
32
33 The good news is that your current hardware (and also the new, for the
34 next few months) will probably work OK with grub-legacy. The bad news
35 is that machines with EFI and UEFI will need to use GRUB2 (again, that
36 is what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong).
37
38 > If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, we have
39 > to support (document, test, take out to dinner occasionally) both, which
40 > is probably going to be more effort than just moving to grub2 after I
41 > figure out how it works.
42
43 Exactly. From my point of view, better to start moving to GRUB2 now
44 (except for critical systems), to got it mastered when it hits stable.
45
46 > Either way is going to require a non-zero amount of work, while zero is
47 > the amount of work I would prefer to do.
48
49 We have a say in México: "el que quiera azul celeste, que le cueste".
50 It's basically the same as "there's no such thing as a free lunch":
51 everything costs, maybe in money, maybe in time, maybe in work, and
52 possibly on all of the above.
53
54 But hey, at least you don't have to write your own boot loader.
55
56 Regards.
57 --
58 Canek Peláez Valdés
59 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
60 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México