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On 6/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@×××××××××.net> wrote: |
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> > On 6/6/06, Michael Crute <mcrute@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > I agree with Daniel, if you learn on a GUI its far too easy to make |
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> > > bad websites. Start with VI and a good book, and do yourself a favor |
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> > > learning CSS and XHTML since that is where web design is headed. |
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> > It is probably a good idea to start with a good text editor and a |
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> > book, but trying to learn vi and web design at the same time might be |
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> > a bit overwhelming! |
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> > |
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> > -- Evan |
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> > -- |
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> > gentoo-user@g.o mailing list |
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> [Timothy A. Holmes] |
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> In this sense I am afraid I cannot agree with you. While I agree that |
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> it is ABSOLUTLY essential to learn XHTML and CSS code, trying to start |
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> from a blank vi or notepad screen is an exercise in frustration -- been |
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> there done that -- as I was beginning to learn web programming, working |
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> under incredible pressure from the then resident administration, I was |
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> trying to hand code everything in Visual InterDev. The crowning moment |
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> was 5 hours spent to produce 2 lines of NON-WORKING code. I far more |
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> recommend a authoring package like Dreamweaver that allows you to flip |
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> views or even split the views, so you can see what is happening to your |
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> code each time you make an insertion. I tend to do the "pretty" stuff |
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> in the gui and use the code editor (which has autocomplete and some |
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> other nice stuff) to do the code. In some cases (like constructing |
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> querys etc) DW makes it very easy to accomplish and provides CONSISTANT |
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> and WORKING code, which is something that beginning web builders have a |
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> hard time with. Even if you are set on doing hand code, do it with a |
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> coding editor such as Dreamweaver - the color coding, line numbers etc |
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> make it much easier to debug |
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> I would at ALL COSTS -- stay away from Front Page -- the code that it |
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> produces is HORRIBLE. |
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I can agree that you may want autocomplete and color coding, maybe |
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even a gui preview but in that case (on Windows) use Notepadd++, |
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Firefox, and ALT+TAB. If you start in a GUI editor it tends to make |
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you lazy conseqently causes you to create bad sites. Its much more to |
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your advantage to RTFM and not take shortcuts. |
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-Mike |
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________________________________ |
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Michael E. Crute |
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http://mike.crute.org |
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