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[Dale]

lee wrote:
> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>
>> lee wrote:
>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> lee wrote:
>>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't go look at boards I had around here.  I went to a major
>>>>> computer supplier, newegg, and looked at what they had.  Go back and
>>>>> read again what I did and maybe read it more carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might I also add, it's more than just me that has pointed out that you
>>>>> are not correct on this.  It's a few others as well.  You ever stop to
>>>>> think that what you observe is not the normal and certainly not the
>>>>> default?  If what you claim was even remotely accurate, newegg would
>>>>> have had a lot larger number of boards with two ports on it.  Thing is,
>>>>> they didn't.  Kai pointed out that the same is true in Europe.
>>>>> Why would I assume that what someone else observes is a default?
>>>>> Besides, I don't see what problem you're having with this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Then why would what you observe also be claimed to be the default?   As
>>>> I also pointed out, it's not just what I observe, it's what I and others
>>>> have observed as well.  So far, you are the only person claiming that
>>>> two ports on a home user board is the default.  I have not seen anyone
>>>> else post that you are correct.  Others have posted that you are not
>>>> correct tho.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is, you claim that having two ports is the default.  It is
>>>> not the default.  I've said it, even researched it and explained how I
>>>> researched it, others have also posted the same point.  Just because you
>>>> have boards with two ports does not mean it is a default.  Given the
>>>> research I did, it isn't even close.  Boards with two ports for a home
>>>> user is not only not the default, it's somewhat rare.  Out of the top 72
>>>> boards I checked, only a couple or so had two ports.  That is far from
>>>> being the default.  That is quite rare.  Even if it was 5 boards, that
>>>> would be under 10%.  That is hardly something to call a default.  If it
>>>> were say 50%, then one could at least argue that the default is moving
>>>> to having two ports.  It's just not the case.
>>>>
>>>> The sooner you figure that out the better for you.
>>> And eating rice is the default because so many people do it ...
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>> You can claim that having two ports is the default but that isn't
>> supported by a single fact.  As I said, the only person who thinks it is
>> a default is you.  The default would be set by the manufacturers.  Since
>> what is manufactured has to be sold, one good way to find out what the
>> default is, go look at what is being sold.  When you see something that
>> is common, like say four USB ports, then that is the default.  Another
>> example, if most all boards have five PCI-e slots, then that is the
>> default.  If you want six slots, seven slots or more, then you are
>> likely going to pay extra and have fewer buying options because that is
>> not the default.
>>
>> Using your logic, no one eats rice since so much of it is grown and
>> sold.  If rice was not grown and not sold, then your logic would work.
>> So, your post doesn't even make sense.  The manufacturers of boards by a
>> large margin puts one ethernet port on a home use board and even most
>> office computers only need one port.  If one goes and looks at what is
>> being manufactured and sold, they would be able to see that.  Of course,
>> some people can't see it even when several people post the facts.  It
>> seems some will never get the idea.
> Rice is not eaten much around here, so it's not the default type of
> food.
>
> Besides, people buy what is being manufactured.  If all boards were
> manufactured with 4 ports, it wouldn't stop ppl from buying them, and if
> no rice was grown, it wouldn't stop ppl from eating (if sufficient
> quantities of other types of food were available).
>
>

Rice isn't eaten much around here either.  That IS NOT the point tho. 
The point is that having two ports is not the default.  As I said
before, if what you claim were even remotely true, then board sellers
would be listing boards with two ports by huge numbers.  They are not. 
It is rare even.  Well under 10%, likely less than 5%.  That is FAR from
being a default.  Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional. 

Given your other posts, I've come to the conclusion that you are truly
living in a world that is not based on reality.  You live is some bubble
that you have created where what you think is the only option.  You,
even when shown facts, can not accept anything that doesn't fit in your
little bubble. 

You posted that two ports is the default.  Others and myself posted that
is not correct.  I even went to the trouble to prove it.  Yet here you
are still posting that it is when you have yet to post a SINGLE fact to
back up what you claim.  I posted how I researched it and did so in a
way that you should be able to do the same, and see it for YOURSELF. 
Yet you refuse to even do that.  You are right even when you are proven
to be 100% wrong in your little bubble.  Unless you can prove that
having two ports is the default, by posting links to a major
manufacturers website or a major seller, you are talking BS and nothing
else. There is no point to you posting anything else.  Post proof or you
are wrong.  Get over it.  Back up your claims.  It shouldn't be hard if
you are correct. It took me about 5 to 10 minutes to do my research and
about the same to post it. 

Have a nice day.  Enjoy your little bubble.

Dale

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