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On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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>> > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? |
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>> > |
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>> > Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer |
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>> > Gentoo to whatever direction do you think is the correct one. |
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>> > Personaly I don't think the devs (who, AFAIK, do not receive a single |
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>> > dime for working on Gentoo) will appreciate anybody telling them how |
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>> > they should do their jobs, the one they do for free. But that's just |
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>> > me. |
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>> |
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>> I think so. Most devs are grateful for (polite) feedback, and take it |
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>> into account when doing their work. I suspect they're unaware of just |
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>> how much this change to booting is disliked by Gentoo users. |
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> Could someone please nudge them this way for them to get first hand feedback |
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> on their decision. |
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>> > No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. |
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>> > Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should |
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>> > happen. |
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>> > |
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>> > Shut up and code. Google it, I didn't come with the phrase. |
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> Not all of us have the capability to code, although all of us are grateful for |
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> good code devs produce and often express our user needs and wants in this M/L. |
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>> Just as a matter of interest, how much coding have you done for open |
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>> source or free software? It was conspicuously absent from the CV you |
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>> posted here a few days ago. |
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> Canek may wish to keep his reply off list because it wouldn't be of particular |
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> interest to many and is not relevant with Gentoo being aligned with a flawed |
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> (IMHO) design principle. |
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> Better we focus our efforts instead on influencing Gentoo devs and upstream |
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> decision making on this matter before it defaults into a design orthodoxy for |
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> Linux. |
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Rather than flooding the gentoo devs with a bunch of outrage, maybe |
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it'd be better to build a document detailing the reasoning of the |
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opinions and discussed potential solutions? It'd probably be received |
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a lot better than starting over with a new heated argument, feeling |
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around how much the various parties know and understand about the |
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issue. |
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