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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers and KDE problem
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:11:06
Message-Id: 51A1FBCD.6020107@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers and KDE problem by Alan McKinnon
1 Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 26/05/2013 13:03, Dale wrote:
3 >> Alan McKinnon wrote:
4 >>> On 26/05/2013 11:51, Dale wrote:
5 >>>
6 >>>> What package provides the kicker thingy? I think in KDE3 it was called
7 >>>> kicker but it appears to have changed to something else. Is that
8 >>>> krunner that has it now?
9 >>> Maybe it's time you used the "thingy" suffix a little less and the real
10 >>> names of things a little more :-)
11 >>>
12 >>> What thing are you asking about? The panel that is usually at the bottom
13 >>> and holds the plasma widgets? Or the thin popup you get with Alt-F2?
14 >>>
15 >>> The panel is called plasma-desktop and comes from kde-base/plasma-workspace
16 >>> The popup is krunner and comes from kde-base/krunner
17 >>>
18 >>> I doubt very much it's a real bug as such in either KDE app (although
19 >>> the fix might go in there). It looks much more to me like a side-effect
20 >>> of IO blocking - two or more apps are trying to get something done and
21 >>> unexpectedly are not getting answers, so they hang around waiting in the
22 >>> doorway and get get in the way of everything else. And just for fun,
23 >>> video drivers are also trying to get in on the act as they have to deal
24 >>> with mouse pointer repaints...
25 >>>
26 >>> Debugging this one is going to be fun (for peculiar definitions of fun)
27 >>>
28 >>>
29 >> The thingy is the thing at the bottom where I can switch desktops, click
30 >> the K menu and where my clock is. I think it was called Kicker in
31 >> KDE3. KDE4 seems to have changed it but not sure what the new name is.
32 > It's a plasma widget called a panel, the only useful thing it does is to
33 > be a container for other widgets that do useful stuff.
34 >
35 > The panel is started by plasma-desktop as one of the standard widgets it
36 > manages. The idea is to give you stuff on the screen that looks more or
37 > less like a familiar desktop. Plasma can do other things and give you
38 > completely different layouts; like for instance not giving you a panel
39 > at all. This would be useful on a phone with small screen
40 >
41 > The whole thing is heavily event based and has to react to a bucket load
42 > of system events being generated such as what the mouse is doing.
43 > There's a fantastic number of ways this could go wrong, some might be
44 > plasma's fault, some might be faults that happen to plasma
45
46
47 I'll try to remember to call it a panel thingy then. ROFL
48
49
50 >> I hope they fix this thing soon. If they remove the driver from the
51 >> tree, I'm in a bit of a pickle.
52 > No, you won't be. You have the ebuild right now, copy it to your overlay
53 > and "remove" becomes something that will not happen
54 >
55 >
56 >
57
58 Last time I did that, it didn't work out well. Actually, it just plain
59 didn't work. May as well tell it like it is. ;-) I'll save a copy
60 just in case.
61
62 Cross that bridge when I get there I guess.
63
64 Dale
65
66 :-) :-)
67
68 --
69 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

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