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From: fire-eyes <sgtphou@×××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:20:45
Message-Id: 478912A6.1030406@fire-eyes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ? by Alan McKinnon
1 Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On Saturday 12 January 2008, alain.didierjean@××××.fr wrote:
3 >> Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership.
4 >> What about it ? Read
5 >> http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html
6 >
7 > I've kept very quiet about Gentoo politics for a long time, but Daniel's
8 > blog has promoted me to finally open my mouth and express my views.
9 >
10 > Daniel is in a tricky position - he is the legal President of the
11 > Foundation but also has no role in the project in real life.
12 >
13 > There is no evidence whatsoever that the Trustees as a group have ever
14 > done a single thing for Gentoo in three years. The fundamental
15 > responsibility of Trustees is to ensure that legal paperwork is
16 > properly filed, they did not even do this. Grant Goodyear is getting
17 > some things done but he's doing it as one person. Chris is in a similar
18 > position. But the Trustees, as a body with specific duties, simply does
19 > not exist in any reasonable definition of Trustees.
20 >
21 > I used to read -dev and various council mailing lists a long time ago as
22 > I wanted to keep up to date with these things as a user. I unsubscribed
23 > because I couldn't stand the constant bickering going on there. OSS
24 > projects always have their laundry out in the public eye and some
25 > conflict is always present but Gentoo management manages to take this
26 > to a whole new level - from on outsider's point of view, the bickering
27 > is done for the sake of bickering, and it does not result in decisions
28 > being made or solutions found.
29 >
30 > Ciaran Mcreesh - I am very specifically looking at you here.
31
32 Very strongly agree with Mr McCreesh (spelling?). While I respect his
33 technical abilities and contributions, I believe his horrible attitude,
34 clear trolling and ability to pit devs against each other, seemingly for
35 fun, is far more harmful. That he wasn't gotten rid of early on is
36 actually the biggest sign of problems in my eyes. That he has fans and
37 followers is another.
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