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From: Bill Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:11:05
Message-Id: 547B093F.5050700@iinet.net.au
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha by Andrew Savchenko
1 On 30/11/14 12:35, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
2 > On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:32:18 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au> wrote:
4 >>> I am already really annoyed that by default
5 >>> systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based
6 >>> systems.
7 >>
8 >> You're getting worked up about text files and filenames. I suppose
9 >> you'll be really upset that bash completion files are now being
10 >> installed by default, and packages install logrotate configs and cron
11 >> scripts even if you don't use logrotate or cron.
12 >
13 > We have INSTALL_MASK for such cases. While it should be used with
14 > care (as improper use will broke system), INSTALL_MASK="*/systemd/*"
15 > keeps my systems clean from this filthy abomination.
16 >
17 >> Sure, we could add a million more layers of conditionals to everything
18 >> and you might save a few dozen inodes on your 10GB install, at the
19 >> cost of lots of hassle/bugs/etc. In general Gentoo tends to take the
20 >> pragmatic approach. If you're a purist of just about any kind you're
21 >> going to have to hold your nose. However, this cuts both ways - the
22 >> purists who don't want YOU to be able to make the choices YOU want to
23 >> make also have to hold their noses. :)
24 >
25 > Best regards,
26 > Andrew Savchenko
27 >
28
29 Yes I am using install masking ... but I believe there was a comment
30 that this could break things as some programs expected to see the files
31 in the systemd directories. Hence my comment.
32
33 And about being a purist and holding my nose ... no I am not ... but I
34 do not like useless cruft just because it was the easy way out which was
35 my impression of the conversation on the email list - hence INSTASL_MASLK.
36
37 BillK