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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:40:46
Message-Id: 6399367.PDLJmV9l4D@dell_xps
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40 by Rich Freeman
1 On Tuesday 15 Aug 2017 16:14:21 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:08 PM, R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
4 > >> I do suggest using libvirt, and found that
5 > >> app-emulation/virt-manager gives you a lot of the benefits of
6 > >> something with a pretty GUI like Virtualbox, but it is 100% FOSS
7 > >> underneath and you can run it all from the command line too. It is
8 > >> just a front-end to libvirt. There are no issues with running these
9 > >> VMs as services also, and I believe that you can connect to their
10 > >> consoles at any time with virt-manager.
11 > >
12 > > My only issue is that when I used libvirt I had to edit the produced
13 > > configurations by hand, and the settings wouldn't always take. Certain
14 > > hardware configurations were also hard to set up.
15 >
16 > This is why I use virt-manager. Granted, like most GUI tools there
17 > are probably some settings you can only get at in the config files,
18 > but it seems at least as capable as Virtualbox. You can always
19 > hand-edit configs but you probably won't bother.
20 >
21 > > However, should everything work it is very nice, and can do things
22 > > like start your VMs on boot and create tap devices on demand, etc.
23 >
24 > And that is what I like about it. Since virt-manager is just a GUI on
25 > top of libvirt you can set up VMs and edit them with the GUI, but
26 > still do all this kind of stuff from the command line when you want
27 > to, or from a service/etc.
28 >
29 > And if you use systemd I'm pretty sure there are units for all of that
30 > stuff, and it interacts with machinectl, but that is just an
31 > integration and you don't need systemd to use libvirt. Systemd itself
32 > is mostly just a front-end to libvirt when doing this stuff, and that
33 > is the power behind the concept - one API for a bunch of tools.
34
35 I've been using QEMU on my laptop which has KVM capability and it's
36 performance is impressive. QEMU without KVM is rather pedestrian, but the
37 same applies to VirtualBox. I have not yet compared QEMU Vs VirtualBox on the
38 same machine to know how they fare. I do not use libirt or virt-manager, but
39 I installed AQEMU for a GUI front end and it seems to work quite
40 satisfactorily when creating VMs, editing their settings, etc.
41 --
42 Regards,
43 Mick

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