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Am 28.09.2013 16:04, schrieb Alan McKinnon: |
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> On 28/09/2013 13:32, Tanstaafl wrote: |
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>> On 2013-09-27 7:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> No really,*why exactly*? |
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>> Because that was the RECOMMENDED WAY IN THE GENTOO HANDBOOK when I first |
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>> set this system up many years ago. |
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> This was something almost all of us recommended way back then. Lord only |
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> knows why we recommeded that. |
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I never knew. Something about 'saver as..' or something stupid. |
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> Maybe it was small drives (which didn't |
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> have), maybe it was different mount options (which I never did and never |
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> saw anyone else do either), or maybe it was for thin clients (which I |
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> only ever saw in use once - Shuttleworth labs in University of Cape Town). |
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> So why did we all (and I included myself) recommend this so much? Dude, |
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> I have no idea, but I *think* we were cargo-culting more than any other |
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> single factor. |
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>> I have no philosophical reason reason to stick with it, only a (maybe |
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>> irrational) fear of breaking things if I attempt to merge it back into /. |
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>> This, combined with an intense (also maybe irrational) desire to avoid |
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>> like the plague using an initramfs, is why this decision to FORCE me |
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>> into a position of possibly having to break my system (either by a filed |
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>> attempt at merging /usr into /, or a failed attampt at using an initramfs). |
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> No-one is forcing you to do anything, the news item did not say that. |
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> It says that if you do it, the devs will not support you and you are on |
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> your own. It also says that in the dev's opinion, the day when you can |
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> no longer support it either is probably not too far away |
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>> I too sincerely hope eudev bypasses this issue. |
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> This has nothing to do with eudev, not with udev |
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>> The main thing about this that pisses me off is the lack of enough |
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>> warning... one month? Really? One month to compleyelt rebuild a seerver |
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>> that has been running flawlessly for many years, just because someone |
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>> doesn't like something that has been done for many years? |
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> First, it is not one month, it is much longer. We've all been whinging |
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> about the issue for most of this year. Two, why do you think you need to |
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> rebuild the entire machine? You don't need to do that just to merge two |
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> filesystems. |
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> To merge two filesystems, you just merge two filesystems. You don't |
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> rebuild anything. You might have some downtime though |
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one reboot. You cp everything into /newuser. On shutdown you unmount |
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/usr, mv newuser usr, sync, unmount, reboot. |
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if you want to do it 'old fashioned', you cp everything to /newuser, |
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reboot with systemrescuecd, mount / on /mnt/gentoo, my newuser to usr |
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and reboot. Oh, and change fstab. |
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Simple and boring. |
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