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On 20/08/2013 06:00, joost@××××××××.org wrote: |
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> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote: |
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> Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software |
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> we are aware |
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> of that currently are not able to provide the full set |
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> of functionality |
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> when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot: |
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> udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this |
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> (using the |
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> PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager, |
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> ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, |
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> gnome-color-manager, |
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> usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, |
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> multipath, Argyll, |
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> VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of |
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> other stuff. [1] |
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> How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are |
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> mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G |
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> modem, play |
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> sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may |
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> be needed, but |
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> the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red |
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> herring too. |
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> It is a red herring. |
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> I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to |
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> put "/" on |
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> LVM as well. |
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> When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were |
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> no issues |
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> with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about |
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> / and /usr |
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> not being able to umount during shutdown. |
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> -- |
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> Joost |
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> I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2 |
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> partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy |
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> either. I had nightmares with that |
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> thing when I used Mandrake years |
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> ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no |
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> keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was |
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> that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing |
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> left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy |
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> 10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago. |
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> I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most |
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> pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me, |
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> I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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> I also still remember. |
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> Not going to mention it now. But will give a hint. |
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> What is the name of the computer that said: "I'm sorry Dale, I can't let |
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> you do that."? |
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bwahahahaha :-) |
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Yes, we all remember Dale's troubles with that thing a few years ago. |
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2001 was a good move and a good book too (just finished both again as it |
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turns out). 2010 doesn't quite match up though... |
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-- |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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