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From: joost@××××××××.org
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:00:59
Message-Id: 17650cec-93eb-40b7-af3c-dd0156ecdd6f@email.android.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Dale
1 Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >J. Roeleveld wrote:
3 >> On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
4 >>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
5 >>>
6 >>>> Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are
7 >aware
8 >>>> of that currently are not able to provide the full set of
9 >functionality
10 >>>> when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
11 >>>> udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this (using the
12 >>>> PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager,
13 >>>> ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch,
14 >gnome-color-manager,
15 >>>> usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, multipath,
16 >Argyll,
17 >>>> VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of other stuff.
18 >[1]
19 >>> How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are
20 >>> mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G modem,
21 >play
22 >>> sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may be
23 >needed, but
24 >>> the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red herring too.
25 >> It is a red herring.
26 >> I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to put
27 >"/" on
28 >> LVM as well.
29 >> When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were no
30 >issues
31 >> with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about / and
32 >/usr
33 >> not being able to umount during shutdown.
34 >>
35 >> --
36 >> Joost
37 >>
38 >>
39 >>
40 >
41 >I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2
42 >partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy
43 >either. I had nightmares with that thing when I used Mandrake years
44 >ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no
45 >keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was
46 >that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing
47 >left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy
48 >10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago.
49 >
50 >I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most
51 >pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me,
52 >I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o
53 >
54 >Dale
55 >
56 >:-) :-)
57 >
58 >--
59 >I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood
60 >or how you interpreted my words!
61
62 I also still remember.
63 Not going to mention it now. But will give a hint.
64 What is the name of the computer that said: "I'm sorry Dale, I can't let you do that."?
65
66 --
67 Joost
68 --
69 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>