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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:12:40
Message-Id: 5212C27E.2020609@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by "J. Roeleveld"
1 J. Roeleveld wrote:
2 > On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
3 >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
4 >>
5 >>> Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
6 >>> of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
7 >>> when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
8 >>> udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this (using the
9 >>> PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager,
10 >>> ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, gnome-color-manager,
11 >>> usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, multipath, Argyll,
12 >>> VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of other stuff. [1]
13 >> How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are
14 >> mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G modem, play
15 >> sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may be needed, but
16 >> the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red herring too.
17 > It is a red herring.
18 > I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to put "/" on
19 > LVM as well.
20 > When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were no issues
21 > with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about / and /usr
22 > not being able to umount during shutdown.
23 >
24 > --
25 > Joost
26 >
27 >
28 >
29
30 I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2
31 partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy
32 either. I had nightmares with that thing when I used Mandrake years
33 ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no
34 keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was
35 that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing
36 left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy
37 10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago.
38
39 I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most
40 pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me,
41 I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o
42
43 Dale
44
45 :-) :-)
46
47 --
48 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo joost@××××××××.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>