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James composed on 2015-08-04 21:07 (UTC): |
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> Interesting choice:: how do you like your choices, Felix? |
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Choices are a double edged sword. The more you have, the more power you have, |
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but the harder to choose, especially while overwhelmed by the unfamiliar. |
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Your later provided ungrading old installation links are intriguing, but |
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nevertheless I'm leaning heavily toward starting fresh. |
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Whether that or upgrade, questions asked and remaining unanswered are leaving |
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me unable to pick a target, whether latest "release", or unknown where best |
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to go without being encumbered by the systemd adolescent, if there's any |
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practical point in so doing. |
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Also there's an as yet unasked question I want to get a handle on before |
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doing anything else. What I have now has no /dev/fb*, so I'm stuck in 80x25 |
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mode unable to use vga= and apparently with a non-modesetting kernel. I |
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wouldn't want a new "installation" also so hamstrung right off the bat |
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without first knowing what to do about it. |
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> To the wider list of gentoo hacks:: |
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> Still think we do not need an easier installation semantic? If he decides to |
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> 'upgrade' there will be tons of man-hours spent on this effort. If we had a |
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> mostly unattended basic installation semantic (proceedure/install) I bet he |
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> (Felix) would choose that pathway. Felix, care to comment? |
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Again it's a question of ability to and interest in dealing with choices. |
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Among conventional distro installers, only openSUSE's YaST2 power pleases me. |
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I would say the traditional text-only Debian installer (shared by *buntu) was |
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worst, if only Anaconda wasn't so horribly horribly unintuitive. Mageia's |
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isn't too bad if one doesn't mind needing to install minimal and then |
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pick&choose from urpmi cmdline after setting no-recommends in order to avoid |
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bloat. |
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The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the |
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people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as currently I, |
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avoid systemd. |
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I really should have followed up on my installation 50 months ago at *least* |
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3 years ago. I have no recollection what stopped me, unless it was a naive |
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choice to put it on one of my oldest slowest machines with nv11 instead of |
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newer Intel or ATI and bunches more CPU power. It could also at least in part |
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be a result of space required exceeding what I'm used to. Most of my test |
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installations are in 4.8G / partitions that wind up 80% full or less. This |
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original is on 4.8G, has only 26% free, apparently has no Xorg or KDE, and no |
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qlist to figure what *is* installed. |
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> If we (gentoo) had a simple installation semantic, this sort of problem |
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> would most likely disappear; so the wider community could delve into other |
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> technical support issues...... YMMV. |
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I get the feeling Gentoo isn't a right choice for people who need a "simple |
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installation semantic". |
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"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant |
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) |
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Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! |
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