Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:22:51
Message-Id: 201009071322.00111.joost@antarean.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant by Al
1 On Tuesday 07 September 2010 12:51:36 Al wrote:
2 > 2010/9/7 J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>:
3 > > Except that then I need to do these 2 steps all the time and for every
4 > > mailing list that I use.
5 >
6 > Only once for the news groups of gentoo. Only one click to subscribe
7 > to a second group.
8
9 Per project, per list, per desktop...
10 That becomes quite a lot of work.
11 And there is at least one click to get to the subscribe-list.
12 Then at least one click per list (or once for "select all"?)
13 Then at least one click to confirm.
14
15 Am counting 3 clicks here at least. And multiply that with all the desktops
16 and projects.
17
18 As opposed to configuring one IMAP-server per desktop and 1 webpage to remember
19 for the webmail.
20
21 > > Usenet's strength was that all news-groups were accessible through all
22 > > news- servers.
23 >
24 > Usenet was the sozial network of the past. It has been replaced by
25 > something better in that function.
26
27 I never considered usenet to be a social network.
28 We had chat-software for that.
29 (And no, I am not talking about ICQ, that came later)
30
31 > > By using different news-servers for different projects, this advantage is
32 > > gone.
33 >
34 > Usenet is gone. The advantage of a projects newsserver is something
35 > very different. Easy to subcribe to and a full knowledge database of
36 > all discussions without switching to a browser. The problem is that
37 > people didn't learn how to do that at all.
38
39 How do you search through a newsserver without having to download all the
40 messages in their entirety?
41 The error-message someone might be trying to resolve may not even be in the
42 subject, but in one of the replies.
43
44 > > This way, I only need to subscribe to mailing lists once and only need to
45 > > remember one set of account-details.
46 >
47 > But you have to set up filters for that account.
48
49 Once per mailing list and the filters are included in my backups.
50 If I need to reinstall a desktop for whatever reason, I need to re-add all the
51 news-servers and news-groups...
52
53 > > And I am not aware of any news-reader that can handle multiple different
54 > > news- servers easily without a news-proxy like leafnode sitting in
55 > > between.
56 >
57 > Thunderbird. There is no limit to severs you can subscribe to.
58
59 And can these all be listed in the same list as my email?
60 My email is sorted as such:
61 INBOX
62 |-Maillists
63 |-project
64 |- list
65
66 Can thunderbird, or any other news-reader, plug the news-group-feed into my
67 email like that?
68
69 In the summary-page, I can easily view how many new messages there are per
70 mailing list, I am used to working like that.
71
72 But, like Norman Rieß said, if you want to maintain a news server that is
73 fully synchronised with the mailing lists, I don't think anyone would try to
74 stop you.
75
76 --
77 Joost