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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:13:27
Message-Id: 5bdc1c8b0801151412g31257d0ftc735aa6d294de7e0@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? by Alan McKinnon
1 On Jan 15, 2008 12:48 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Eric Martin wrote:
3 > > > Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo
4 > > > installer is probably the wrong target market and should be
5 > > > referred to other distros that will suit their needs better. This
6 > > > is not a troll or an elitist statement, it's just recognizing what
7 > > > gentoo is and what it isn't - it's not a distro suitable for
8 > > > someone to whom chroot isn't yet second nature.
9 > > >
10 > >
11 > > I don't think it's an elitist statement, I agree in thinking that we
12 > > shouldn't cater to the lcd. There are plenty of distros out there
13 > > that work just fine and the greatest thing about FOSS is choice. If
14 > > all of the options are the same there's no point. Again though, I
15 > > have to disagree with the point that it's not for somebody whom
16 > > chroot isn't yet second nature: I learned chroot through the install.
17 > > I've tried playing around with Fedora / Ubunttu but I keep going
18 > > back to Gentoo; it's my favorite distro.
19 >
20 > I know my statement about chroot looks like it should be taken
21 > literally, but it wasn't meant that way. Read it more as illustrative,
22 > that the potential user should be reasonably familiar with the more
23 > unusual commands in *nix systems - chroot, grep, the idea of pipes and
24 > redirection and many many more. After all if they are going to be using
25 > these tools, they should know something about them.
26 >
27
28 Or the user could be like me - no experience with any of these
29 commands but a moderate interest in learning. I hope this users list
30 will continue to be supportive of folks like me. I was pointed to
31 Gentoo 7 years ago by a very experienced Linux sys admin at a start up
32 I was working at in Silicon Valley. Primarily through the help of
33 this list I managed to get my first machine working in a few days and
34 today have probably built 20 Gentoo machines. My longest lived, used
35 my my dad who will be 80 this year, has now been running over 5 years.
36 I couldn't have done it without the folks on this list.
37
38 Grant you, I get that I'm not the target market, but I am someone who
39 has benefited greatly from Gentoo and the generosity of the folks on
40 this list. I hope it will continue for others that follow over the
41 years to come.
42
43 Thanks,
44 Mark
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