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From: Caveman Al Toraboran <toraboracaveman@××××××××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 02:14:33
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In Reply to: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? by Rich Freeman
1 On Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:43 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > Are you overriding something, or were you running this right in the
4 > middle of an update?
5
6 emerge was updating, then some ebuild failed and i
7 didn't have --keep-going. then next time i tried
8 to sync layman it failed.
9
10 i'm now re-running emerge and it seems to work
11 normally.
12
13 >
14 > layman-2.4.2 strictly requires python 3.6 and the system wouldn't let
15 > you remove that version of python unless you forced it to. The newer
16 > version of layman is compatible with the newer versions of python, but
17 > of course needs to be rebuilt for it.
18
19 i have layman-2.4.3, emerged with python3_6, and
20 is now about to be moved to python3_7.
21
22 no biggie. i can fix it. but, my point is, this
23 hassle is needless and keeps coming.
24
25 > If you read the news on the update you'd see this. If you just do a
26 > regular emerge -uD @world then while it was in the middle of updating
27 > some things would break. There are instructions in the news for how
28 > to do a more seamless upgrade by enabling both the older and newer
29 > versions of python in parallel, in which case there won't be any point
30 > where things break. That does require rebuilding everything twice
31 > (not necessarily at the same time).
32
33 true, but needless hassle imo.
34
35 > Really though this is pretty tame. There have been some updates to
36 > expat and especially glibc in the past that were pretty hairy.
37
38 are you referring to python's dependence on expat
39 and glibc?
40
41 yeah, so many layers of mistakes get born when one
42 relies on python as a dependency for a system app
43 that manages other apps (including itself).

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