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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:31:06
Message-Id: AANLkTikYOvMt9jqA5KERVATB_MQIh3ls5gzQ3hZ3J_MM@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem by Alan McKinnon
1 On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 [snip]
3 > Like an earlier poster suggested, PulseAudio looks like a hammer in search of
4 > a nail.
5
6 I have a bluetooth headset. I set it up with gnome-bluetooth, and with
7 PulseAudio I can dynamically redirect the output in my laptop from the
8 speakers to the headset and back; it also redirects it automatically
9 when my headset gets disconnected or runs out of battery.
10
11 Good luck doing that with ALSA.
12
13 PulseAudio is here to stay, and for a very good reason I say. It's not
14 "too complicated" or "overkill"; a modern sound architecture for
15 desktop computers was in dire need for Linux, and PulseAudio was the
16 first complete and (more important) correct designed solution. Don't
17 even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the
18 kernel.
19
20 This is why *ALL* the Linux based mobile phones use PulseAudio: it
21 *works*, and it *makes sense* from a technical point of view. It
22 sucked for a long time? Indeed it did; just like KDE 4.0 sucked
23 immediately afer KDE 3.5; just like X.org sucked at the very
24 beginning; just like ALSA sucked when it replaced OSS; just like GNOME
25 2.0 sucked. Innovation is expensive.
26
27 I have PulseAudio running perfectly in my laptop, my desktop, *and* my
28 MediaCenter connected to my 5.1 system. Via HDMI, by the way. I thank
29 for PulseAudio; now, after the initial (and very annoying) problems,
30 it works, it doesn't get in the way, and it's flexible enough to adapt
31 to new hardware and new sound solutions. Bluetooth headsets it's just
32 one example (but a very good one I believe; everything is going
33 wireless); there are USB sound cards, transparently output the music
34 from my laptop to my MediaCenter, and, of course, little beeps from
35 the GUI when I click a menu item.
36
37 I repeat: PulseAudio is here to stay. You can purge it out of your
38 system, but more and more applications will make use of it, and
39 eventually you will not be able to have a desktop without it. Right
40 now it works flawlessly in the majority of hardware; I highly
41 recommend to start using it now (it's stable in Gentoo since a couple
42 of months ago, I believe); and better get used to it.
43
44 Because it's not going anywhere.
45 --
46 Canek Peláez Valdés
47 Instituto de Matemáticas
48 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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