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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: Gentoo User <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Your opinion on jpeg encoders, please
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:54:45
Message-Id: CAK2H+edNuiy25GAfY-aGYMce5Acv7Xdc0KNz83xYBV1=Z-iLCg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Your opinion on jpeg encoders, please by Frank Steinmetzger
1 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:38 PM Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@×××.de> wrote:
2 >
3 > Hi all,
4 >
5 > this is not really a Gentoo-specific question, but some of you know your
6 way
7 > around stuff, so here goes.
8 >
9 > When I edit photos, I like to shrink and recompress them to save on space,
10 > but not mangle them too much in the process to lose quality. So for
11 average
12 > images I tend to use a quality setting between 80 and 86, very bad shots
13 > such as defocussed or blurred ones just 70. And for the really good ones
14 > (crystal sharp, portraits, extraordinary motives etc) 90 and more.
15 >
16 > In the far past I’ve been using Gimp, but for some years now mostly
17 Showfoto
18 > (the editor from Digikam) due to its more useful photo enhancement
19 features.
20 >
21 > However I noticed that the latter procuces larger files for the same
22 quality
23 > setting. So currently, I first save with a very high setting from Showfoto
24 > and then recompress the whole directory in a one-line-loop using
25 > imagemagick’s convert. I have the impression that it produces far smaller
26 > files at the same visual quality.
27 >
28 >
29 > Now I know that one can’t fully compare quality settings of different
30 > encoders, but it started me wondering: which is really “better”? Or maybe
31 > just a little more enhanced, or up-to-date from an algorithmic standpoint?
32 >
33 > Just because many distros and tools use libjpeg, that doesn’t mean it’s
34 the
35 > best one out there. Gimp, showfoto and convert use different encoders,
36 > because compressing the same PNG with the same JPEG setting does not
37 result
38 > in three identical files.
39 >
40 > Does any of you have an opinion on that matter?
41 > Cheers.
42 >
43 > --
44 > Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’
45 > Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network.
46 >
47 > What do you call a man with a seagull on his head? – Cliff.
48
49 This topic comes up a lot with astrophotography. I took about 150 24M pixel
50 shots last night. It uses a lot of disk space.
51
52 From my reading - which isn't a lot - it seems to be technically superior
53 to simply downsample the original and then compress with jpeg if you need
54 to go that far vs using higher jpeg compression ratios on the original.
55
56 I have no data to back this up and it probably depends a lot on your source
57 material so YMMV but it's an option.
58
59 HTH,
60 Mark