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> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:58:10 +0100, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: |
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>>> On 2/9/2010 3:16 AM, Dale wrote: |
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>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:17:08 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: |
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>>>>> My solution to simplify Gentoo... |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> waltdnes@d531 ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.mask |
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>>>>> sys-libs/pam |
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>>>>> sys-apps/dbus |
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>>>>> sys-apps/hal |
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>>>>> You'll have to do a manual depclean (very carefully) and |
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>>>>> revdep-rebuild, but it's worth the effort to purify your Gentoo |
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>>>>> system. |
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>>>> Simpler than that, just add -hal to xorg stuff in package.use and then |
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>>>> run emerge -uvDNa world. |
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>>>> I'm not saying your way won't work but I think mine is easier. |
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>>> His way is also *way* more Luddite than yours. Note the 'pam' and |
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>>> 'dbus', two things basically standard (and very stable) on modern |
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>>> Linux desktop systems. |
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>>> --K |
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>> I don't agree with the term Luddite here. It's not being against new |
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>> things and new ways of doing things. He just doesn't need those |
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>> things for his hardware to work properly. Me, I don't need hal for |
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>> my mouse and keyboard to work. As a matter of fact, mine doesn't |
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>> work WITH hal. I have to remove hal to get mine to work. |
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>> So, hal may be progress to you but it is a step backward for me. |
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>> It's the opposite of progress. |
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>> Dale |
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>> :-) :-) |
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> I think, that hal was a lot harder for a lot of us, than the good old |
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> xorg.conf. This may because we (linux user in general) are used to |
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> xorg.conf. For my personal experience, I hadn't been using linux for |
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> about 4 years, so I'd completely forgotten the xorg syntax, but that |
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> was still a more simple process to relearn the xorg.conf syntax, than |
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> understanding the hal configuration files. |
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> A project such as hal necessarily has contact with the user with an |
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> "unusual" (read: at least a non-us keyboard) setup. Therefore the |
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> syntax in which it is configured has to be "easily" (read: a quick |
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> google search/documentation search away) accessed by the users to whom |
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> it may be necessary. And I believe that this is the point where hal |
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> truly fails, other than cases like Dale's. |
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> The xorg.conf is simply a more simple, and easier configuration file |
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> than the various hal policies. |
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Well, actually, if hal would have worked I wouldn't have cared if it |
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uses xorg.conf at all. That was the point of using hal. Thing is, I |
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followed the howto and it didn't work. The fact that the config files |
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are in xml only became a problem after hal locked me out of my GUI and |
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required a hard shutdown. |
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So, hal failed on my system not just because of the config files being |
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in xml but because it just didn't work at all. Bad things is, this |
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system is a 5 year old rig. Heaven forbid I had something new that had |
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"iffy" support. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |