Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome

[Holly Bostick]

Trenton Adams schreef:
> On 1/14/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org> wrote:
>> On 1/14/06, Trenton Adams <trenton.d.adams@×××××.com> wrote:
>>> The old version could disable gnome, but 1.5 can't.  Perhaps it's
>>>  a firefox 1.5 ebuild limitation?  I hope that's what it is,
>>> because I can't stand gnome.
>> False.
>>
>> carcharias rjf # ldd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin  | grep
>> gnome carcharias rjf # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox
>>
>> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ]
>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9  USE="java -debug -gnome -ipv6
>> -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint" 0 kB
>
> If you already have gnome installed, gnome won't show up unless you
> go --tree, will it?  Either way, you can take a look in the ebuild
> file for firefox 1.5, and there's no reference to gnome.  No checking
>  of the gnome useflag or anything like that. 1.0.7 has it though.
>

The appearance of USE flags (which is what we're talking about) is
unrelated to whether or not you have the package installed already-- a
USE flag does not appear or disappear based on whether you have the
relevant package installed. In fact, the USE flag controls to great
degree whether you install the relevant dependency or not (i.e., if K3b
optionally depends on KDE, then enabling the "kde" USE flag will install
additional, optional KDE support programs. But since K3b requires
kdelibs and kdebase to run at all, these hard dependencies are not
controlled by the USE flag).

In any case:

emerge -pv mozilla-firefox gnome-light

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9  USE="gnome java
xprint -debug -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-light-2.12.0  0 kB

As you see, I do have GNOME installed, and the "gnome" USE flag does
still appear in the Firefox prospective emerge output.


|> Runtime Dependencies
|> mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9
|>
|>     gnome >= gnome-base/gnome-vfs - 2.3.5

|> Title: 	gnome-vfs
|> Description: 	Gnome Virtual Filesystem

So enabling the gnome USE flag adds a runtime dependency on the GNOME
virtual file system.

Which sounds an awful lot like something that might affect dialogs.

However, since there were a lot of complaints about the old dialog, I
strongly doubt that disabling this flag would change the dialogs
terribly significantly, except that you wouldn't have the GNOME extras
that I mentioned before. It's quite likely that even the "naked" new
dialog is a lot like the current GNOME dialog.

And again, the likely reason that there is no reference to GNOME in the
ebuild is because the references to GNOME integration and compatibility
are *in the source code*, because the *Mozilla developers chose* this
dialog *as the default* (but not the only) choice of dialog. That is
their good right, just as it is your good right to change that if you so
desire (since that is apparently quite possible to do).

Ebuilds don't do anything but compile the code as given, with some
slight modification to work within the Gentoo system (as opposed to the
RedHat system or the SuSE system). Ebuilds certainly don't change things
as integral to the operation of the program as the format and type of
file dialogs.

I suppose you could trawl through the source and see where this is set
and then write an ebuild to make the choice of file dialog type a
configure option-- maybe. If it's already a configure option. Which I
doubt. But you could look.

Holly
-- 
gentoo-user@g.o mailing list