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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote |
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> Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, |
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> I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run |
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> when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. |
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Might even get me to come back to udev. I wonder which group will be |
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setting the specs as far as "the official udev" is concerned. The |
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Gentoo devs should seek support from other distros and Linus himself. |
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If we merely make a fork, and the systemd people still have the |
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"official version", we'll be doomed to slavishly follow them in "bug |
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compatability" mode. What happens if/when Lennart gets his way? |
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http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html |
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> And what we will certainly not do is compromise the uniform integration |
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> into systemd for some cosmetic improvements for non-systemd systems. |
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> (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case |
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> you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we |
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> can drop that support entirely.) |
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And that's probably not the only thing that the systemd people could |
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do to jerk us around. A successful fork would need to be one that |
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hardware companies release drivers for, and that GNOME/KDE will support. |
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I still think that the fork team should look at where mdev doesn't |
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match udev, and write shims to add the missing functionality. The |
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busybox people obviously don't want to bloat their minimal version. But |
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it already does most of what is needed, so some shims to add missing |
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functionality there would be less effort than an entire udev fork. |
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> I wonder what they will name it tho. |
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Howsabout calling it "Woodstock"? We could even have our own cheer |
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Gimmee an EFF |
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EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
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Gimmee an OOO |
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Gimmee an ARR |
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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Gimmee a KAY |
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KAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
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What's that spell? |
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FORK! |
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What's that spell? |
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FORK! |
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What's that spell? |
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FORK! |
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Now all we need is a quarter of a million people screaming in unison. |
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-- |
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Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> |
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I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications |