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On Nov 14, 2012 10:02 AM, "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote |
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> > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, |
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> > I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run |
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> > when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. |
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> Might even get me to come back to udev. I wonder which group will be |
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> setting the specs as far as "the official udev" is concerned. The |
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> Gentoo devs should seek support from other distros and Linus himself. |
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> If we merely make a fork, and the systemd people still have the |
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> "official version", we'll be doomed to slavishly follow them in "bug |
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> compatability" mode. What happens if/when Lennart gets his way? |
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http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html |
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> > And what we will certainly not do is compromise the uniform integration |
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> > into systemd for some cosmetic improvements for non-systemd systems. |
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> > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case |
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> > you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we |
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> > can drop that support entirely.) |
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> And that's probably not the only thing that the systemd people could |
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> do to jerk us around. A successful fork would need to be one that |
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> hardware companies release drivers for, and that GNOME/KDE will support. |
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> I still think that the fork team should look at where mdev doesn't |
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> match udev, and write shims to add the missing functionality. The |
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> busybox people obviously don't want to bloat their minimal version. But |
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> it already does most of what is needed, so some shims to add missing |
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> functionality there would be less effort than an entire udev fork. |
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> > I wonder what they will name it tho. |
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> Howsabout calling it "Woodstock"? We could even have our own cheer |
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> Gimmee an EFF |
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> EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
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> Gimmee an OOO |
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> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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> Gimmee an ARR |
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> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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> Gimmee a KAY |
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> KAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
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> What's that spell? |
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> FORK! |
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> What's that spell? |
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> FORK! |
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> What's that spell? |
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> FORK! |
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> Now all we need is a quarter of a million people screaming in unison. |
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LOL |
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Now seriously: |
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You should follow the discussion in -project. Someone (I forgot who |
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exactly) has made a personal commitment to within a month produce a |
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serviceable udev fork, at least a Proof of Concept. And IIRC, hwoarang is |
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going to 'test the waters' with Debian people. |
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So, this is not a pipe dream. It's happening, code will be produced, ... |
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and I bet some people will get offended ;-) |
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Rgds, |
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