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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:36:12
Message-Id: CADPrc82bd0r4r9COdJk=2is+6M3KWxxYCrFF0iHSOjhhLjpJyA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
6 >>>> ...
7 >>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging
8 >>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show
9 >>>> in ways they really should be keeping private.
10 >>>
11 >>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
12 >>>
13 >>> Stroller.
14 >>>
15 >>>
16 >>
17 >> You are understanding it wrong. The scene being worked towards is:
18 >>
19 >> ebuilds for services will install openrc scripts in /etc/init.d
20 >> ebuilds for services will install unit files somewhere else.
21 >> Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, the
22 >> set in user depends on the service manager.
23 >>
24 >> There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files
25 >> but it's still just an idea. If it becomes more than an idea, the files
26 >> in /etc/init.d may or may not be dispensed with. Either way it doesn't
27 >> matter. Unit files are unlikely to number more than 100 total, and are
28 >> likely to be smaller than 1 fs allocation unit in size.
29 >
30 > 160 files in my laptop, using 652K, 122 files in a LAMP server, using 492K.
31 >
32 >> bash's man page is considerably larger than all that all by itself.
33 >
34 > bash's man page is 62K in my laptop (compressed with bzip2), 277K uncompressed.
35 >
36 > So, not quite exactly like you say, but the point remains true. The
37 > man pages in my laptop use more than 20 times the space used in
38 > /usr/lib/systemd (and that includes binaries like systemd itself and
39 > systemd-udev).
40
41 Oh, I just noticed that systemd-udev is a link to /sbin/udev. So add
42 205K more for it.
43
44 Regards.
45 --
46 Canek Peláez Valdés
47 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
48 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México