Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout --> openrc ?

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 22:52 on Friday 22 October 2010, Dale did 
opine thusly:

> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:19 on Friday 22 October 2010, Stroller
> > did
> >
> > opine thusly:
> >> On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >>> ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time,
> >>> so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that
> >>> when the devs decide to flip a keyword.
> >>
> >> I thought this was a matter of debate - Openrc was IIRC the creation of
> >> Roy Marples, who was originally a Gentoo dev and the baselayout
> >> maintainer.
> >>
> >> As Roy developed baselayout 2 (or "baselayout - The Next Generation", as
> >> you might call it) he decided to generalise it, AFAICT, in order to make
> >> it useful to other distros or unices (e.g. the BSDs).
> >>
> >> Roy is no longer a Gentoo dev and is no longer maintaining Openrc:
> >> http://roy.marples.name/projects/openrc
> >>
> >> I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question:
> >> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce55de133ca592b638db758c9e4573
> >> 70. xml or http://tinyurl.com/3xglcqb
> >
> > Did you and I read the same mail thread? I read all of it - did you?
> >
> > The end result of that is not that there is a question over openrc, it is
> > that openrc will proceed. And anyone else that wants to pursue systemd
> > or any other init system is free to go ahead and show up on gentoo-dev
> > with running code. Meanwhile, openrc is where it's going.
> >
> > The thread started with someone wondering about openrc; I disagree with
> > your conclusion about where it ended.
>
> That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too.  It is coming
> but just not sure when.  Me, I'm not switching until it starts getting
> closer to that time.  It, like some of the newer versions of portage,
> appears to be stable and is used by many people but is not marked stable
> yet.  Both of those sort of confuse me sometimes.
>
> I'm just hoping that when the switch comes, it is painless.

Just do it. Seriously.

There are three blockers holding baselayout-2/openrc back, none of them affect 
you:

1. {something rare, I forget}
2. Something wierd about evms on weird arches
3. Some obscure mdadm thing

Those are blockers, true enough. But they are *Gentoo* blockers, not *Dale's 
Gentoo* blockers.

Seriously, just do it. You'll be glad you did. You'll spend an hour or three 
double checking lots of stuff in /etc/conf.d/ and then you can reap permanent 
benefits.


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