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On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:58:22 +0100, Maarten <gentoo@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On Monday 06 December 2004 20:25, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote: |
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> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:57:15 +0100, Maarten <gentoo@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> > > On Monday 06 December 2004 19:23, Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote: |
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> > > > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:47:43 +0100, Maarten <gentoo@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> OK. done that, but first the 'emerge world' proved to be quite a bit longer |
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> than I expected as it included X and mozilla amongst others. |
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> I believe my poor old pentium3 500 is still pounding on it, hehe. |
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> So things take way longer than expected (no hurry though). |
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> Does this like happen every other week, having one or the other 'major' |
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> ebuilds renewed ? I mean of the size of X, or Kde, or OOo, glibc and alike ? |
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> I'm beginning to believe my pentium3 is severely underpowered here... ;) |
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That depends on how often you update. If you do it once a week |
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probably not. But i'm one of those stupid people who like to update |
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once per day. Altough my servers don't see a lot of compile time on |
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stable and at most once per week. |
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> What is your opinion on the udev vs ... choice ? |
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Personnally udev is the way to go, most of the troubles of the early |
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days are gone if not all. Never had any troubles with and as a bonus |
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you can reserve some blocks to some device like if you like your usb |
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key to always be /dev/sda. It's pretty flexible, useful, it's not |
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deprecated and it's maintained. |
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> Which is best when handling lots of hotpluggable devices (usb-storage etc) or |
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> is there no real difference there ? |
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Hotplug + coldplug (hotplugging at boot) |
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> What happens if I need to boot a 2.4 |
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> kernel, will the missing and/or incompatible /dev structure not bite me ? |
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Well, now that modules-init-tools support both kernel series there's |
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only one thing stopping you : devfsd vs udev :). But there's hope ! |
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Don't know what are the settings available on the stable baselayout |
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but here's an interesting snippet of my /etc/conf.d/rc : |
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# Use this variable to control the /dev management behavior. |
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# auto - let the scripts figure out what's best at boot |
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# devfs - use devfs (requires sys-fs/devfsd) |
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# udev - use udev (requires sys-fs/udev) |
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# static - let the user manage static nodes |
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RC_DEVICES="auto" |
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So in a resume you can run a 2.4 kernel with devfsd and it will be |
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detected and used. Since udev is a userland program, a 2.4 kernel will |
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not be bothered with it. That's in theory, I don't know if devfsd and |
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udev will block each other in portage. If not well run devfsd only |
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until you switch completly to 2.6. |
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> 8-) |
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> Go right ahead. I should be quite fluent in linux now, just the gentoo part |
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> is new. But I've used old slackware, redhat, suse & debian (in that order) |
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> So feel free to skip the basics. The USE flags and some of the paths of config |
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> structures daunt me for now but that's basically it. And I want to learn |
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> gentoo the *right* way, not the easy-but-you-will-regret-that-later way. |
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That's the spirit ! Browse the documentation & tips and trick section |
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of the forum. It's so juicy with goodies it's unbelievable. Anyway |
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will all of the doc available, it's pretty to figure it out ;). |
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> Lol indeed; I fully agree. Lilo caused me no end of trouble, and quite |
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> recently even cost me over 2 days work with 480 GB raid5 data at stake, more |
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> or less. Well, long story, I'll not bore you with it but suffice to say that |
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> some new SATA boards' drive mapping will wreak havoc on how lilo will see |
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> drives (let alone BOOT from any of them). I've seen more L99 99 99 99 and L00 |
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> 00 00 00 errors than I really care to remember. Lilo is dead for me now. |
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> I'll never touch it again. (Well, after the legacy systems have gone...) |
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All I can say is that I understand you better than you could know |
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(damn I hate redhat ... oops sorry OT ... must control rage ...) |
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> Hey, I already like this list, feels right at home :-)) |
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> Thanks for the welcome! |
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> Now to get 2.6 + kismet + gpsd running and I'm truely happy. |
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> All the rest seems to work fine already. |
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> Maarten |
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No problem ! |
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Enjoy your shiney new gentoo |
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regards, |
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Jean-Francois |
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