Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

[Dale]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Friday 26 November 2010, Dale wrote:
>
>> I'm planning to build a new rig.  My current rig is about 7 or 8 years
>> old now and it needs to be updated.  Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs
>> of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo.  Couple hard drives too.
>>
>> New build #1 with links and all.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
>>
>> COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black case.  I included this
>> because of the rather LARGE CPU heatsink that is going to be listed
>> later.  I did a google image search and saw it in other rigs so it
>> should fit in there.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130265
>>
>> MSI 790XT-G45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X motherboard.  It's not the latest
>> but it is a OK mobo.
>>
> seriously? No. Get an AM3 board.
>

Yea, I'm not to familiar with MSI anyway.  I have worked with a Gigabyte 
before and it was nice.  I liked the BIOS too.  Not to mention this 
seems to be a older board.

>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125296
>>
>> GIGABYTE GV-N210OC-512I GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0
>> x16 HDCP video card.  I don't do gaming.  Actually, my old FX-5200 does
>> pretty well but won't fit in the new mobo.  I really don't need a super
>> fast video card here.
>>
> emm, no. You might not need a fast card, but with a 210 you could also use no
> card at all.
>

Going to work on this some more.  Seriously tho, my old FX-5200 works 
pretty good here.  It is really old and outdated.  lol


>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116
>>
>> Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V Power supply.  I
>> like this brand and would like to stay with this but if the price is
>> right, I could be tempted to change my mind.  My biggest question on
>> this, can this handle this mobo, CPU, video card and 3 to 4 drives
>> including a DVD burner?
>>
> wtf?
> I have a phenom II 955, 8gb ddr3. 7drives and a 5770 - and my 450(!) W BeQuiet
> doesn't even break a sweat. Big PSU  = a lot of wasted money. Don't follow
> that stupid trend.
>

I have a 550w power supply in my current rig.  I figured some of the 
basics, CPU is 125W and I do run folding which makes it work hard, the 
video card which I figure is about 50 or so max.  A little here and 
there for the drives, fans and other stuff I have not even thought of 
yet.  I read somewhere a while back that the start up is the hardest on 
a power supply.  I just added a little to what I got and figure that 
should cover any extra for the CPU, video cards and other goodies.   
According to the ole power meter, my current rig pulls 280 watts.  
That's the A/C measurement but given efficiency and all that would be 
250 or maybe a little less.  Add in that when I was digging around, this 
was a good deal.  Free shipping and on sale I think.  May have changed 
since then tho.

Of course, I am sure 1000w would be overkill.  lol

>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644
>>
>> AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB
>> L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor.  From the searches I did,
>> this should fit this mobo fine.  Agree?
>>
> yeah
>

Wish I could afford the 6 core one tho.

>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
>>
>> Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 Desktop
>> Memory.  I have used this brand before with not one problem.  Like
>> before, if the price is right, I could change this.
>>
> No, no, no and no.
> DDR2? No. 4gb? No. You can get 2x4gb ddr3 for very low prices. Oh - and please
> don't buy Kingston. Kingston = overpriced crap.
>

The reason I picked Kingston is that that is what I have always used.  
So far, knock on wood, no failures.  It's the only brand I have any 
experience with tho I have heard Crucial is good but also pricey at times.

>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118056
>>
>> ZALMAN CNPS10X FLEX CPU Cooler.  This thing got good reviews and it is
>> not priced to high.  According to the searches I have done this will fit
>> the mobo/CPU and should fit in the case.  Any disagreements on this?
>>
>>
> just saying, I have a scythe shuriken. A very small cooler:
> CPU FAN Speed:       737 RPM  (min =  600 RPM)
> CPU Temperature:     +40.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
> MB Temperature:      +39.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C)
>
> and for the first couple of minutes the fan doesn't even run.
>
>

Yea, it is small.  Keep in mind, I run folding which runs the CPU at 
100% and it runs for weeks with no break.  On this cycle, folding has 
been up the last 19 days which is when I rebooted last.  If I don't have 
a good cooler, folding will find out pretty soon.  I usually do a bit of 
overkill here.  My little AMD 2500+ has a Volcano 12+ on it.  Right now 
as I type, it is 86F or 30C.   Also, I plan to run the fans with a temp 
control.  I may replace the fan with ThermalTake like I have now.  I 
like the temp control setup I have.  As the CPU heats up, it just turns 
faster.


>> This is build #2:
>>
>> I'll be using the same case, power supply, video card etc so I won't
>> list them all twice.  Just listing the things that have to be changed.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431
>>
>> GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard.  The only
>> thing I don't like about this is that it doesn't have a com port for my
>> UPS.  I guess a adapter will be found somewhere.
>>
>>
> Gigabyte is nice, usb3 is nice, ddr3 is nice. But 770? SB710? Well, not as bad
> as 700... but the 850 is out...
>

I usually don't get the latest because of the price.  I'm on fixed 
income and it has taken me a while to save up what I got now.  I usually 
get something that has been out for a while, with a few bug fixes too, 
and save a little bit of money that way.   Plus, I look at what ports I 
use and such as well.  I do wish it had at least one com port for my 
UPS.  I'm not sure how to get it working with the USB adapter thingy.  
That may be another thread and/or some googling.

Thanks for the info.  Got to go dig a bit more.

Dale

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