Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Friday 26 November 2010, Dale wrote:
> I'm planning to build a new rig.  My current rig is about 7 or 8 years
> old now and it needs to be updated.  Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs
> of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo.  Couple hard drives too.
>
> New build #1 with links and all.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
>
> COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black case.  I included this
> because of the rather LARGE CPU heatsink that is going to be listed
> later.  I did a google image search and saw it in other rigs so it
> should fit in there.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130265
>
> MSI 790XT-G45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X motherboard.  It's not the latest
> but it is a OK mobo.

seriously? No. Get an AM3 board.

>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125296
>
> GIGABYTE GV-N210OC-512I GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0
> x16 HDCP video card.  I don't do gaming.  Actually, my old FX-5200 does
> pretty well but won't fit in the new mobo.  I really don't need a super
> fast video card here.

emm, no. You might not need a fast card, but with a 210 you could also use no 
card at all.

>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116
>
> Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V Power supply.  I
> like this brand and would like to stay with this but if the price is
> right, I could be tempted to change my mind.  My biggest question on
> this, can this handle this mobo, CPU, video card and 3 to 4 drives
> including a DVD burner?

wtf?
I have a phenom II 955, 8gb ddr3. 7drives and a 5770 - and my 450(!) W BeQuiet 
doesn't even break a sweat. Big PSU  = a lot of wasted money. Don't follow 
that stupid trend.

>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644
>
> AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB
> L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor.  From the searches I did,
> this should fit this mobo fine.  Agree?
yeah

>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
>
> Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 Desktop
> Memory.  I have used this brand before with not one problem.  Like
> before, if the price is right, I could change this.

No, no, no and no.
DDR2? No. 4gb? No. You can get 2x4gb ddr3 for very low prices. Oh - and please 
don't buy Kingston. Kingston = overpriced crap.

>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118056
>
> ZALMAN CNPS10X FLEX CPU Cooler.  This thing got good reviews and it is
> not priced to high.  According to the searches I have done this will fit
> the mobo/CPU and should fit in the case.  Any disagreements on this?
>

just saying, I have a scythe shuriken. A very small cooler:
CPU FAN Speed:       737 RPM  (min =  600 RPM)
CPU Temperature:     +40.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)  
MB Temperature:      +39.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C)  

and for the first couple of minutes the fan doesn't even run.

> This is build #2:
>
> I'll be using the same case, power supply, video card etc so I won't
> list them all twice.  Just listing the things that have to be changed.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431
>
> GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard.  The only
> thing I don't like about this is that it doesn't have a com port for my
> UPS.  I guess a adapter will be found somewhere.
>

Gigabyte is nice, usb3 is nice, ddr3 is nice. But 770? SB710? Well, not as bad 
as 700... but the 850 is out...

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675
>
> AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket
> AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor.  This should fit the mobo according to the
> website.  Agree?
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148325
>
> Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
> Desktop Memory.  According to newegg this fits the mobo.  Agree?

>
> I only plan to build one or the other not both.  I would like to make
> sure everything should fit fine but I would also like to get a opinion.
> I would like a opinion on whether build #2 would be better in the long
> run?  It appears to be a bit faster although the price is not much
> different.  Build #1 is $611.92.  Build #2 is $637.92.  That doesn't
> include shipping but a lot of the items have free shipping anyway.
> Basically, I need this to last me several years since I can't afford to
> rebuild every few years.  Also, one reason for the HUGE CPU cooler, I
> run folding in the winter.  Helps heat the place up a bit.  lol  My
> current rig with a Volcano 12 runs at about 90F at full load.  I would
> like to run pretty close to that since it just makes the CPU last longer.
>
> I'm open to ideas, discussion, problems and opinions.  I mostly want to
> make sure each build will work and which I should build.
>
> Thanks for your time and replies.  If you need more info, let me know.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)