Re: [gentoo-user] Package conflict while trying to emerge chromium

[Marc Joliet]

Am Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:43:22 -0500
schrieb "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@××××××××.org>:

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:09:43PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote
> > Am Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:09:23 +0000
> > schrieb Stroller <stroller@××××××××××××××××××.uk>:
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 14 February 2015, at 10:36 am, Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Personally, I don't like that way of doing things, because unless you
> > > > you completely deactivate Flash, Youtube will stupidly never attempt
> > > > to use HTML5 videos
> > >
> > > YouTube have recently switched to HTML5 as the default:
> > >
> > > http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7926001/youtube-drops-flash-for-html5-video-default
> >
> > Excellent :-) !
> >
> > One minor(!) problem though: that does not include the current
> > Firefox 35 (they say they enabled HTML5 video for Firefox *betas*).
> > But starting with Firefox 36 I'll try running without FlashDisable
> > and see what it's like.
>
>   I'm running the Seamonkey-2.32 variant of Firefox, and Seamonkey is
> nowhere near Firefox beta.  It seems to work on Youtube in HTML5.  A few
> oddities, which may or may not be specific to Seamonkey...
>
> - It has only 2 resolutions... 360p... and "auto"... which gives 360p<G>.
>   This is the case even for "1080p demo" videos.  Mind you, the video
>   quality looks (to me at least) a lot better than 360p on Flash looks.

Hmm, that's certainly an oddity.  What about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHO389dvj6Y.  I get the choice between 360p and
720p.

> - There are 2 player sizes.  "Default" is the standard size that you're
>   used to in the upper left corner of the screen.  "Theater Mode" expands
>   to the full width of the browser.  The vertical size scales to the
>   proper height for the aspect ratio.  However, it's not true fullscreen
>   because you still see the browser frame/bars/etc, even if the browser
>   is maximized.  On some other HTML5 video demos, you can right click,
>   and get a menu which includes a "Fullscreen" item that gives true
>   fullscreen.  But this does not appear on Youtube.

I do get the fullscreen option, it appears right next to the "theater" mode
button.

> - Last, but not least, the cpu load is a lot lower when playing HTML5
>   video than Flash video.  This is important to me, because I'm trying
>   to run my 7 and 1/2 year old Dell (Intel Core Duo) into the ground.
>   It refuses to die.

My Desktop is similarly old (Athlon64 X2 EE), but a couple of upgrades have kept
it mostly pleasant to use, although one can "compensate" an old CPU only so
much.  As far as I remember the only things that have died so far are HDDs and
PSUs (oh, and the original GPU!).

>   I have multiple Seamonkey profiles, dedicated to specific tasks (You
> can do this with Firefox, too).  It's ironic that the first profile on
> which I can turn off Flash is my "youtube" profile.  I still need Flash
> for NHL GameCentreLive, internet radio, etc.  Your version of Firefox
> might HTML5 video now.  Try it.

It's not that it doesn't do HTML5 video, I've been using that ever since I
noticed the "gstreamer" USE flag in December 2012 (/etc in git is nice ;)).
It's just that I can't deactivate FlashDisable and expect YouTube to default to
HTML5 videos yet (see the top of the quoted text above).

FWIW, I *did* try it and still got the undesired behaviour (Youtube trying to
use Flash).

Hmm, maybe you're logged in to Youtube?  Or maybe I didn't wait long enough
after the "please activate your Flash plug-in" message? Or maybe they treat
Seamonkey differently (but why?)?  I suppose I'll try again later.

-- 
Marc Joliet
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