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On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> Dale asked *where* system is defined, not what it consists of. |
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Well, he was asking many things. One can run into several directions |
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with all the questions he asked, depending on the assumptions one |
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makes. ;) |
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> It appears you are completely missing the point. It is indeed very easy to |
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> add things to the @system set, but we are talking about the system set, |
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> and it is broken out of the box as shipped. |
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I'm just focusing on it on a level where we (the users, me, you, Mr. |
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Dalek, or the OP) can do things about it, where we have immediate |
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write access. That rules out the Gentoo repos and leaves the local |
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boxes. |
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We also can and should escalate it to those who can do more, and IIRC |
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some kind person (you? missed it and forgot who it was) already |
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offered to file the bug. Short of becoming a dev, what more can be |
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done in a volunteer-based distro? |
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> Portage will not let you unmerge portage or gcc without a fight. |
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Been there, done exactly that (with gcc), though no t-shirts were |
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awarded. A 10-second countdown (IIRC) is hardly a "fight". (But the |
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reinstall sure was, won't do it ever again if I simply can avoid it!) |
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> But it's not working that way today. Ergo, it is broken. |
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I think that is what we agree on, it warrants an escalation (a bug or |
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a feature request). It is the immediate things vs. higher level |
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reporting that we seem to be slightly mixed up about. |
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I already asked quickly about this on #gentoo on Saturday and the |
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resident devs there hadn't heard about this, but didn't really appear |
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that worried either. I won't blame them. This won't destroy your data, |
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this will only make certain breakage cases a bit more complicated, and |
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if you really need the four or five nines uptimes, you can try |
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mitigating the problem by, e.g., going full scale buildpkg for |
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everything. |
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Furthermore, the glep-55 discussion seems to be heating up again on |
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the -dev-list, so I wouldn't expect the devs to be quick to fix |
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anything related to the PMS/multiple package manager issues right now. |
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They're too busy flinging all shades of poo. Summer, they should have |
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lectures and exams during summer at Universities, too. :/ |
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