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Albert Hopkins wrote: |
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> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 17:29 +0000, James wrote: |
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>> Hello, |
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>> I do not read as much as I should, but, I stumbled across this page [1] |
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>> that suggests that EVMS is dead. I see it is in portage, but is it |
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>> slated for the trash, as time moves forward? Sure it's Ubuntu site, but |
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>> they claim EVMS is unmaintained, if you read further down the page. |
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>>From evms.sf.net: |
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> "The current stable version of EVMS is 2.5.5. It was released on |
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> February 26, 2006." |
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> That's 3 months shy of 2 years. Also read the following thread from |
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> their -dev ML: |
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> http://marc.info/?l=evms-devel&m=119078823017821&w=2 |
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given that I frequently play the role of the heretic (complete with burn scars |
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all over my body and various bits of damage from the weapons of true believers) |
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I think it's a good thing that EVMS is slated for the trash heap. It's a |
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classic example of "second system syndrome" as defined by "the mythical Man |
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month". It's overly complicated, poorly documented, and has a terrible user |
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interface that only a geek would even consider using. |
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Having said that, I also think LVMS suffers from many if not all of the same |
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problems that plagued EVMS. it is been around for years and still the |
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documentation on how to perform common operations is lacking. It's a chicken |
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and egg problem. You need to understand LVMS in order to understand the |
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documentation and then you can't explain it to anyone else. Every time I've |
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used LVMS, it takes me the same number of hours to relearn the same old pieces |
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of obscure command syntax and become comfortable that I'm not going to trash my |
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disk. As a result, I don't use LVMS either. |
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I don't see a compelling case for using LVMS and it kin unless you're running a |
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multiple disk array with different segments mounted as raid arrays. Then you |
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can justify the expense of your labor in understanding how to use LVMS. Using |
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it on a small system like a laptop or desktop with only a couple drives, not |
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worth it. Even if you're just using simple mirroring, it's still not worth it. |
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Here's a simple example why not. If you machine dies and your backups are |
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"inadequate", you may want to try and recover the disc by putting it into |
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another system. How? If you didn't back up a bunch of magic information from |
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the original system's /etc directory, you're well and truly screwed. But even |
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if you have the information, you may still be screwed if you can't find the |
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documentation which tells you how to incorporate the LVMS configuration data |
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into the new system. this is the kind of high risk error prone thing that a |
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command should do, not a human. |
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This situation really sucks. LVMS can be really nice when you need it but |
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unfortunately a lack of documentation, use examples written for people who don't |
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live with LVMS but once or twice a year, and a nice GUI for translating what the |
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user wants to do into LVMS commands keep LVMS inaccessible and frustrating to |
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use by many |
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---eric (heretic by thought, deed, and graffiti) |
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