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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:59:09
Message-Id: 52481602.6020305@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 by Greg Woodbury
1 Am 29.09.2013 13:03, schrieb Greg Woodbury:
2 > On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
3 >
4 >> why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL?
5 >>
6 >> They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone to
7 >> break.
8 >>
9 > Except that systemd *is* why a seperate /usr is broken now.
10 > Parts of the libraries that systemd depend on we *deliberately* placed
11 > in /usr despite the fact that they are needed to bbring the system to
12 > an operational state. For *years* things required to boot the system
13 > were defined to be in the root file system, and items not required
14 > until after mounting had been accomplished were to be placed in /usr.
15 >
16 > BTW: There is a standard (The File System Hierarch Standard - FSS)
17 > that existed and described this behaviour. It was killed off by
18 > deliberate vendor refusals to support or adhere to it. In
19 > frustration, the folks involved simply gave up.
20 >
21
22 things were broken way before that. As much as I hate systemd, it is not
23 the root cause of the problem.
24
25 The problems were caused by people saying that seperate /usr was a good
26 idea, so / would not fill up and similar idiocies. The problems were
27 caused by people saying that lvm is a good idea - for desktops. Those
28 people who are fighting against the kernel auto assembling raids are to
29 blame too.
30
31 Systemd is just another point in a very long list.

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