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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 23:17:39
Message-Id: CADPrc802mriOqoLogK6XSfUPQ_OQuT-2Zes9zb3=QWvYA3C41g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? by "Róbert Čerňanský"
1 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Róbert Čerňanský <openhs@×××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:18:54 -0600
3 > Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Róbert Čerňanský
6 >> <openhs@×××××××××.com> wrote:
7 >> > Hello all,
8 >> >
9 >> > I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev
10 >> > (204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully) simple:
11 >> >
12 >> > Can I use systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? In other words,
13 >> > can I pretend that systemd is udev and continue using OpenRC as
14 >> > with udev itself? I would then apply just udev 204 to 208 update
15 >> > instructions (http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade).
16 >> >
17 >> > I am using WindowMaker and systemd was pulled in by
18 >> > gnome-settings-daemon which in turn was pulled in by gdm. I would
19 >> > like to stick with gdm.
20 >>
21 >> The GNOME stuff that requires systemd will not work under OpenRC from
22 >> 3.10 on, you could get strange fails with gdm and
23 >> gnome-settings-daemon. If it's gdm-3.8, then I think you can use
24 >> systemd as udev replacement together with OpenRC, and I believe some
25 >> people did it successfully.
26 >
27 > Thanks. I have enabled openrc-force use flag found this in
28 > gnome-settings-daemon emerge log, which confirms what you have said:
29 >
30 > "gnome-settings-daemon needs Systemd to be *running* for working
31 > properly. Please follow the this guide to migrate:
32 > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
33 > You are enabling 'openrc-force' USE flag to skip systemd requirement,
34 > this can lead to unexpected problems and is not supported neither by
35 > upstream neither by Gnome Gentoo maintainers. If you suffer any problem,
36 > you will need to disable this USE flag system wide and retest before
37 > opening any bug report."
38 >
39 > So the it is clear to me now.
40 >
41 > I will try openrc-force as temporal solution until I'll find a new
42 > display manager and give heart breaking good by to GDM.
43
44 You could *try* to run systemd and see if you like it.
45
46 Many of us do.
47
48 Regards.
49 --
50 Canek Peláez Valdés
51 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
52 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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