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From: Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:04:59
Message-Id: 59613269.j8C0hkkVMk@pc
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox! by "Sebastian Beßler"
1 On Friday 22 July 2011 18:41:26 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
2 > Am 22.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
3 > > It may look like KDE is the likely culprit based on just the
4 > > information you provide, but I would be more inclined to look at
5 > > browser plugins first, concentrating on those with both Firefox and
6 > > Chromium versions from the same developer team.
7 >
8 > I have zero browser plugins installed. So that is not the culprit. And
9 > why should plugins lock up X when used under KDE but not under XFCE?
10
11 Maybe because you did not enable compositing in xfce4, but use it with kde4?
12
13 > The problem that X freezes with KDE4 is more likely with webbrowsers but
14 > happend when using other programms too. But because of the fact that one
15 > or more browsers are nearly always running it is hard to find a freeze
16 > without a browser running.
17 >
18 > > There could be a cornercase bug in KDE that only shows up on your
19 > > specific combination, or maybe there is some edge KDE app you use that
20 > > disagrees with violently with FF. Or maybe it's the video driver that
21 > > doesn't actually do what it tells KDE it can do (remember the
22 > > painfully slow nVidia drivers with early KDE4?)
23 >
24 > I use the opensource drivers for ati-cards. So t is unlikely to be
25 > driver related.
26
27 Well, have a look at http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-
28 bugs@××××××××××××.com/msg1483058.html for an example how the open source
29 atidrivers can hang X with firefox. Note that compositing was enabled here
30 (compiz). And here's another one:
31 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436632
32
33 > I use no edge KDE apps only amarok, yakuake, kate, konsole, dolphin,
34 > ktorrent from time to time. All of them but dolphin is still in use
35 > under xfce4 so I think I can rule them out too.
36 >
37 > I know it could still be a truckload of other things, but as a fan of
38 > Ockham's razor I still say that KDE4 is broken.
39
40 kde4 works for me, firefox works for me. I use closed source nvidia drivers. So
41 Ockham's razor tells us, the ati-drivers are broken.
42 Now more seriously: try attaching gdb to the hanging process and get a
43 backtrace. You are affected by some bug in some OSS. If you want to be helpful,
44 provide the necessary info. Even if you don't understand the backtrace, others
45 do.
46
47 > Greetings
48 > Sebastian Beßler
49
50 Regards,
51 Michael

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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox! "Sebastian Beßler" <sebastian@××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox! Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>