Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, "Tanstaafl" <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote:
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> On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but...
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>> I'm sure some or most of you have already heard about this, but I found
>> a really decent thread discussing this whole systemd thing. It is only
>> really comparing systemd and upstart, as that was the debate going on in
>> the debian TC, but it is a great read, and has actually made me rethink
>> my blind objections to systemd a bit.
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> One of which was logging:
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> "20. Myth: systemd makes it impossible to run syslog.
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> Not true, we carefully made sure when we introduced the journal that all
data is also passed on to any syslog daemon running. In fact, if something
changed, then only that syslog gets more complete data now than it got
before, since we now cover early boot stuff as well as STDOUT/STDERR of any
system service."
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> From: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html

Also, for those of you who don't follow Linux-related news, Ubuntu will
also change to systemd in the future:

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316

And I *heard* that Slackware was also discussing the possibility, but since
I don't follow Slackware at all, I don't know for sure.

Anyway, distros not using systemd, and that they are not really small
and/or niche, seem to be disappearing. The discussion that Tanstaafl posted
is interesting since the arguments used by the four TC members are really
focused on the technical merits of the proposed init systems.

Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México